Selling your body is just another normal student job now apparently

Here’s the gender studies professor backing the stand at Brighton. Your basic average libfem nightmare. She likes to retweet Paris Lees.

As I said before, watch her response n shrieking for the hills should anyone suggest SHE shags some sweaty fucker with halitosis for ten quid herself.

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A 2015 study by Swansea University found that nearly 5% of students had been a sex worker at some point in their lives, and more than 20% had considered sex work to help pay their bills

So, it's a little ambiguous but 15 or 20% of students considered sex work but realised it was a bad idea. What effect might stands at freshers fairs normalising 'sex work' have on them? Does anyone seriously think that nudging students towards 'sex work' is in any way a good thing?

Most women who declare earnestly that ‘sex work is work and valid!’ would throw up their hands in horror and run for the hills if actually invited to suck some fat sweaty man’s cock for a tenner.

What these dim libfems mean is that sex work is work for poor women. Not for them, heaven forfend.

It might be easy if you are not from the class of women who sell sex but I am

Likewise. And, apart from those invested in the industry, I can't help noticing that most of those defending 'sex work as work' also TWAW are either male or from a more elite background where they carefully consider other women's choices as 'free' without having a fucking clue that no choice is made in a vacuum.

Good article there, the brush box incident was dealt with effectively via social media, we need the same here.

"sex work is work" - in the era of #metoo I don't think so and peddling this nonsense is obvious grooming of teenagers and overall objectification of women by using peer pressure to bypass healthy boundaries.

Sexual health clinics run by the NHS are the service students are and should be directed to, this blatant pimp stand at a freshers fair is grim and the opposite of healthy.

A 2015 study by Swansea University found that nearly 5% of students had been a sex worker at some point in their lives, and more than 20% had considered sex work to help pay their bills

I'm sure many people, men and women, have considered many unpleasant, dubious, unwise, unsafe and downright criminal actions when faced with a difficult bill and then decided not to do any of them.

No jobcentre has ever offered a job as a prostitute and no jobcentre ever will,

Have you ever been in a job centre? Do you not realise how much working class women are despised by the establishment in this country? Look at the abuse of those girls in Rotherham/Rochdale/Telford. Those in authority knew what was happening but they didn't care cos they were just 'little slags.' Universal Credit is a system which forces women to remain in coercisve relationships designed without the slightest regard of the years of practice which ensured benefits were paid to mothers - all mothers, just encase the father was abusive.

Meanwhile the burden of austeristy falls onto women - 86% of cuts enacted against them.
It might be easy if you are not from the class of women who sell sex but I am. I see how desperate people are round my ends now. This issue makes me so very very angry.
The fact that is being normalized at an elite level terrifies me.
I don't think it will happen tomorrow nobody is saying that. It is a drip drip drip. Pimps want it normalised. Sanitised. Justifed.

Covered nicely in The Sunday Times

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-to-be-a-sex-worker-advice-for-freshers-2nhxvlwjf?shareToken=004ba081914f8217857e7e1b488e93e6

As I understand it that is a blatant lie.

www.urban75.net/forums/threads/jobcentre-plus-taking-ads-for-escort-jobs.145678/

some sex jobs were restricted in 2010 though

No jobcentre has ever offered a job as a prostitute and no jobcentre ever will

I love your certainty. It seems like only yesterday that women didn't have penises.

Personally I'm very grateful that there are people who go down sewers to clear fatbergs (and work in abbatoirs, perform open heart surgery and teach reception aged children - all things that I would be spectacularly terrible at)

I'm not grateful that there are women who are prepared to receive money so that men may gain access to their bodily orifices.

nordicmodelnow.org/2017/07/04/whats-wrong-with-prostitution/

Prostitution as a job prematurely ages you, leaves you at risk of disease and injury.

They really need to do their research...

None of these workers is....

There are a lot of jobs I'd rather not do, off the top of my head if a jobcentre asked if I wanted to go down a manhole and unclog underground sewage drains I wouldn't particularly be too happy

I am so fed up of this argument- the "it's better than flipping burgers" excuse.

It is deeply insulting to burger flippers, sewage workers, refuse collectors , cleaners or whoever.

None of these workers are causing societal damage and in many cases are doing dangerous , unpleasant and essential work from which we all benefit.

It's really not. Again, stop normalizing the idea that women are consumer products and that buying access to our vaginas is like buying a pack of toilet paper or a washing machine.

Unclogging fatbergs is unpleasant but it’s a socially not making money to support the wholesale sexual exploitation of women. The sex industry supports and drives human trafficking and rape and misery on an industrial scale.

Making money for the pimps, criminals and gangs who run the sex industry is not OK - and to be offered a job that contributes to the wholesale sexual exploitation of women at a jobcentre is deeply, deeply wrong.

Legalised brothels in Germany have driven huge trafficking increases - the number of women in the industry voluntarily who are happy to be there is a very small minority.

It really isn’t OK for the state jobcentre to be offering jobs in brothels.

"Whether being fucked for money or pouring the beer for the punters"

No jobcentre has ever offered a job as a prostitute and no jobcentre ever will, and the job offered to serve drinks was completely optional with no penalty for saying no. Will it hurt just to say no and let the jobcentre move onto another offer?

There are a lot of jobs I'd rather not do, off the top of my head if a jobcentre asked if I wanted to go down a manhole and unclog underground sewage drains I wouldn't particularly be too happy.

Any lurking TRAs will of course be pro-prostitution. It comes with the territory.

So a woman was offered a job in a brothel behind a bar serving drinks which was optional with no penalty for turning it down.

Offered by the state. State sanctioned brothel work. Not ok.

Do you think it’s ok for a job centre to offer jobs at brothels? Whether being fucked for money or pouring the beer for the punters, it’s not a job that any civilised society should be sanctioning by the state.

I personally find that disturbing. Shocking even. The state jobcentre offers brothel jobs. You don’t find that even a tiny bit disconcerting?

Can I ask what your opinion on the sex industry is?

"and this woman being threatened with her benefits removed "

The job at the brothel behind the bar was actually not mandatory, it was optional. She was at no risk of losing benefits for turning it down.

also this:
“a job centre cannot force or threaten anyone into sex work, because sex work, although recognised as an activity, is a special one because it requires or demands physical intimacy.”

So a woman was offered a job in a brothel behind a bar serving drinks which was optional with no penalty for turning it down. This is then twisted into "if prostitution is illegal women will have to become prostitutes or lose benefits!", and because an online article says it happens lots of people believe it.

Talk about blowing things out of proportion.

There are far more uni students who are sex workers than you realise. Same with uni students paying for sex.
It's just they don't go around shouting about it. Why work for minimum wage when you can earn £80+ an hour. That's the attraction at the end of the day.
Prostitution isn't like it used to be. Hardly anyone walks the streets anymore, although of course there is still a market for the street hookers.
They advertise everywhere - SM, Adultwork, and other dedicated sites. Plus they also have their own site. And of course, you have the agencies.
Forums dedicated to discussing sex work from the punter and the prostitutes' point of view, kind of like MN.
Outreach programs, safe spaces for testing, reporting systems are all in place and much more.
A lot of hookers aren't using brothels either. Your next door neighbour could be a hooker. We don't all go around in mini skirts, high heels and bright red lipstick!!

some women may feel selling sex is preferable to debt
Student loan debt isn't really the same as ordinary debt though, is it? I've got to be honest, I was worried about this when my son told me he wanted to go to uni, but according to him it's seen as a graduate tax rather than a debt.

When I was at university quite a few of my fellow students did phone-sex as a job and so did my students when I started teaching. Since then I have been quite surprised at how many turned tricks - mainly women, but men too. It is very sad.

The article refers to a job in a brothel. She was offered I think a bar job, in a brothel.

I’ve worked plenty of bar jobs when I was a student. In pubs. Not brothels.

Would you like to work in a brothel? Even as a cleaner, receptionist or bar worker? I wouldn’t, and this woman being threatened with her benefits removed for not wanting to work in the second trade is pretty grim.

Or do you think brothels are just fine and dandy and there’s no issue with forcing women to work in them?