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Trans debate BBC 5live post 9am TODAY Mon 24th Sept

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TefalTester123 · 24/09/2018 08:56

Not posted much on this but been following the debate. Just heard interview with the Guide Leader at the centre of the GG issues (Helen I think) and announcement that they will be debating the whole trans issue after 9am with Nicky Campbell.

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FloralCup · 24/09/2018 09:53

If one is truly gender non-conforming then surely you would not care if someone called you she, he, they etc

MuseumofInnocence · 24/09/2018 09:53

This is disgraceful - up to now, we've had one extreme text but everything thing else is pro-TRA

Zeugma · 24/09/2018 09:53

Can this be.......PIPS BUNCE?!

Charliethefeminist · 24/09/2018 09:53

Transgender ideology has a MAJOR problem with gender non conforming people. So much so that it requires people to turn themselves into lifelong medical patients if they don't obey the stereotypes required of their sex.

OldCrone · 24/09/2018 09:53

Phoning is more effective than online apparently, but we can do both.

Why is phoning more effective? Don't you just get some phone operator who pretends to agree with you? and then nothing?

BeUpStanding · 24/09/2018 09:52

OK I'm out. It's too much crazy for me. If anyone needs me I'll be over at Radio 4

R0wantrees · 24/09/2018 09:52

I do hope Boy George is listening.

Zeugma · 24/09/2018 09:51

I've forced myself to come back after switching it off.

It's just unbelievable how few women's voices have been heard in this 'debate', other than Webberley and the camping mum with the burly bearded 'she' friend.

As for Webberley and her heart 'hurting' and 'lifting'......ODFO

R0wantrees · 24/09/2018 09:51

Encouragement from Dr Webberely for children and young people to 'play with their pronouns'

NothingOnTellyAgain · 24/09/2018 09:51

"Do what they want" lol that sums it up doesn't it!

Women should do what men want. Or get sent to the Gulag. Got it thanks Grin

Didn't listen >
What wrong with Larry Grayson then?
I remember him vaguely he had his glasses on a bit of string round his neck, seemed vaguely benign? I was very young at the time, I remember Benny Hill sketches making me uneasy and stuff when there were "sexy ladies being sexy" on various things but what was wrong with Larry Grayson?

ChoccyJules · 24/09/2018 09:51

Had to turn off before I vomit. Not the debate I was hoping for. In fact, not a debate.

OldCrone · 24/09/2018 09:51

Society has a problem with gender non conforming people. Yes.
Society should be more accepting of them. Yes.
What the hell has this got to do with trans? Trans is all about pushing such people into the gender box which fits their personality.

R0wantrees · 24/09/2018 09:51

Info re 'conservative religious' countries

Where being a gay man is a punishable offence, males transitioning is accepted.

Charliethefeminist · 24/09/2018 09:50

And that's the BBC complaints form

vaginafetishist · 24/09/2018 09:50

Hearing a lot about Helen's heart.

What a lovely woman.

Charliethefeminist · 24/09/2018 09:50

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/contact_us/making_a_complaint.html&ved=2ahUKEwjNrcf4oNPdAhVjL8AKHU-GAm0QFjABegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw1iEx1MdQSlh60nhDZVgQQy&cshid=1537778951789" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/contact_us/making_a_complaint.html&ved=2ahUKEwjNrcf4oNPdAhVjL8AKHU-GAm0QFjABegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw1iEx1MdQSlh60nhDZVgQQy&cshid=1537778951789

Phoning is more effective than online apparently, but we can do both. Don't get fobbed off and progress the complaint when you get the stupid Pro forma response.

JoanSummers · 24/09/2018 09:49

Nicky hadn't heard about how they deal with this in Iran then.

vaginafetishist · 24/09/2018 09:49

He likes Little Mix? What the actual fuck.

JoanSummers · 24/09/2018 09:48

Do you think they are aware how unintentionally hilarious this conversation is for anyone who knows the topic, and how utterly incomprehensible it is to anyone else??

heresyandwitchcraft · 24/09/2018 09:47

Gender non-conforming.
EVERYONE IS GENDER-NON CONFORMING TO SOME EXTENT.
EVERYONE.
It is he "for now".........

JetPlanes · 24/09/2018 09:47

I haven’t listened to 5 live before but don’t think I ever will again. I can not believe the presenter is allowed to be like this. ‘Biological sex is tricky’ and not being challenged on that is ridiculous. I just want someone to ask why gender is at all relevant to anything in life. SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX is the reason there are traditionally two different spaces for lots of things.

R0wantrees · 24/09/2018 09:47

Child says 'I want to be a girl' he doesn't 'care what people think'

OldCrone · 24/09/2018 09:46

WHAT!!!! SHE HAD A BEARD???!!!

And a penis (of course).

ChilliJamandAvocado · 24/09/2018 09:46

lol at skirts and sparkly clothes are what make a woman. What sexist wank!

vaginafetishist · 24/09/2018 09:46

'Gender non conforming' but you must absolutely MUST conform to gender.

[Screams]

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