Is Eva Wiseman sending a coded message of support

No need to be sorry placemats I'm sure Ena Sharples wouldn't have given a monkeys what either of us thought of her. It's partly why I like her.

I did see Violet Carson in real life once and she was very glamorous.

I am old enough to have spent enough time sympathetically listening to friends and they go through the trauma of divorce. There are different stages, some sad, some boring, as the friend progresses through various stages of shock and grief, and the nightmare practicalities of divorce. Through most of them you listen and you support. Sometimes you might proffer one or two constructive suggestions. But it is really best not to judge. Not least because the distressed friend is often at a lowest ebb, and not the person they really are.

Sorry, but I don't like Ena Sharples.

I did like the actress who played her though.

Lass The quotes were from a Daily Mail article- plus her own Twitter comments full of righteous indignation at the idea of his coming round to the house he still owns and where he still has things belonging to him.

In which on the twitter feed he wanted her not to be in the house so he could put on red dots on the possessions within the marital home. AND then he wanted her to pack them up and send them to him.

In what planet is that acceptable?

So far as children according to a Guardian article from 2000 their younger son Ivan was 2 years old then.

Ive no doubt you’ll be rubbing your hands with glee and waiting to see how those who post on Mumsnet will respond to your piece, Eva Wiseman. I just want to know why you felt the need to patronise members, as if we’re some ‘guilty secret’? Was it too difficult for you to write a piece about how supportive women are on Mumsnet, when others want to share their experiences of childbirth? You’re a bit old to be worrying about looking ‘cool’ and above the other posters. Here’s a wee bit of information, the very fact that you and other reporters read these threads, MAKES YOU A MUMSNETTER. Don’t be so bloody patronising.

The quotes were from a Daily Mail article- plus her own Twitter comments full of righteous indignation at the idea of his coming round to the house he still owns and where he still has things belonging to him.

Oh I agree the moving into a Council flat is over- egging the pudding.

I adore Ena Sharples. She'd have eaten Eva Wiseman for breakfast and washed her down with a bottle of stout

Agreed. Is there a point to Eva Wiseman? It was a dreadful and not very bright article. I might say something dim on here but nobody knows who I am - whereas Eva helpfully provides a name and a (out of date) photo.

She refers to herself as a "sneering individual" so no, not code. Outright criticism I think.

the younger cooler me used to love will self. but i remember a female character who he described as letting her menstrual blood flow freely. i remember thinking "yeah. you're not really fully aware how much blood there can be, are you?"

I adore Ena Sharples. She'd have eaten Eva Wiseman for breakfast and washed her down with a bottle of stout.

pachyderm: I think Ena Sharples should be our mascot.

Lass Where has she objected to dealing with the selling of the marital home? Plus they have children who live in that home. He's moved out to a council estate flat? HOW? He's a multi millionaire.

Plus I hate divorces that happen just after someone has had to deal with cancer and the recovery. I understand her anger.

I admit the dirty linen in public can backfire. I don't like the side of me that enjoys it. But then I am Ena Sharples.

removes clothespegs from mouth, takes lengthy pull from glass of milk stout

Divorce cases always involve the marital home. As a lawyer, you should know this. Plus you previously described Deborah as Mrs Self. How nasty!

They do- so why is she objecting to dealing with it?

If she had moved out and he was making a song and dance about having to sell to give her a half share you (general) you would be falling over yourselves to support her.

Yes I accept calling her Mrs Self was nasty. It was deliberate.If anyone is coming across as spoilt and selfish it is her.

I think she's making a mistake washing her dirty laundry in public. I'm also amazed at the number of people on that Twitter thread gleefully stating how much they've always hated Will Self. She was with him for 20+ years - how awful for her to realise that he was so widely disliked. She must have seen something in him once.

Lass Nasty post unless you are on the lawyer team of lurch.

Divorce cases always involve the marital home. As a lawyer, you should know this. Plus you previously described Deborah as Mrs Self. How nasty!

I tried to read one of WS's books once and that was bad enough. Orr should get some sort of endurance medal

I have no sympathy at all for Deborah Orr. She is whinging about Will Self wanting his share of the house they jointly own.

He has moved out but she is aghast at the prospect it might have to be sold. There is nothing unreasonable in his asking for the house to be sold.

Her thousands of followers then pitched in with their support, and Ms Orr detailed further unreasonable behaviour by Mr Self, who she claims has compelled her to put their home on the market for around £1.5million

Their marriage broke down three years ago, and she now feels forced to sell it to halve the proceeds with him. He now rents a nearby former council flat.

JFC the woman trying to guilt trip Orr into not making jokes about the divorce process because it's bad for the family.

There is no family. Like the parrot in the Monty Python sketch, it has expired. Now all that's left is for Lurch to stop pissing all over the corpse (and Orr's boundaries) and fuck off.

Shellfish often cling to the rocks they land on.

Lurch. Yes Pacyderm

I'd buy Hadley a drink any time.

I'd much rather have a night out with Ena, Martha and Minnie than with Eva Wiseman and her coolgirl Guardian chums (Hadley Freeman excepted).

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"Lurch"

Now there's a woman who doesn't give a fuck anymore.