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India Willoughby meltdown on Twitter re Pips Bunce

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MrGHardy · 22/09/2018 01:23

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1043128498544680960

"He's not a real woman but I am". Smile

ps does anyone know why this is blowing up now? I swear that Pips Bunce had won this award or a similar one or at least was in the news months and months ago.

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AngryAttackKittens · 22/09/2018 08:31

India is intelligent enough to see which way the wind is blowing

And yet suffering too much from narcissistic injury to stop themselves from screeching T*RF at women who so much as hint at the idea that maybe people can't change sex.

RJnomore1 · 22/09/2018 08:31

Im confised by the trans drag queen. I thought the trans community found drag queens distasteful and poking fun at then?

Handsoffmyrights · 22/09/2018 08:28

**I can't take credit for that one, Charlie, I read it on here.

Sums it up nicely though, eh?**

It's spot on, thanks for bringing the phrase to my attention.

noeffingidea · 22/09/2018 08:27

I'm not surprised India is having a meltdown, India is intelligent enough to see which way the wind is blowing.

LassWiADelicateAir · 22/09/2018 08:24

I don't think I've ever owned a pair of fishnets. Who in their right mind would think they were appropriate for work??

Not really getting this part of your complaint about him. I've owned and still own fishnet tights, lacey tights, tights with geometric patterns and have worn them to the office. As do other women.
The pink lace dress is a bit much for office wear but the tights themselves as long as the dress was at least knee length are no big deal.

cordeliaflynne · 22/09/2018 08:21

I can in no way step into Bewilderness's shoes but I can tell you it it the 10th rule of misogyny....

calpop · 22/09/2018 08:21

I find Pips Bunce an utter joke (as do many people i know who work at CS). Does anyone know an actual woman who dresses like that in FS? Any grad female coming in looking like that wouldn't last a week. I worked at one of these places and a temp PA came in with a bit of an inappropriate revealing look and she was ritually humiliated, found crying in the toilets and her agency was told she needed Re-education. She never came back.

He's just another spectrum IT bloke with a suspenders fetish due to mummy issues, yawn (20 years in IT, so been done before, this one's just better at self PR).

Why is no one championing actual women, who are treated like shit by these investment banks?

TerfedOff · 22/09/2018 08:19

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This self proclaimed drag queen is also on the list. Nicci Take. Last year he was on the LGBT top 100 award so it's not as if they don't have the appropriate list to put these people on.

They are not and never will be female.

ApplesinmyPocket · 22/09/2018 08:19

I'd be more impressed by India's condemnation if a) I didn't think that India would say that India, unlike "Pippa", would be eligible for a women's award, since India "is a REAL woman", and b) if India wasn't making it clear every few tweets that they "still hate TERFs, make no mistake."

AbsintheFriends · 22/09/2018 08:19

IW doesn't care about how we know. IW doesn't care about women's safety or recognition for their achievements in business. IW's gripe with this is about how it MAKES INDIA LOOK.

SophoclesTheFox · 22/09/2018 08:16

Remember when India thought that a website listing women who were murdered was demonising the poor men?

Yeah, that was low. We need Bewilderness back to tell us which of the rules of misogyny it is when the worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.

TerfsUp · 22/09/2018 08:16

It sucks when someone tries to appropriate your identity, doesn't it, India?

SophoclesTheFox · 22/09/2018 08:14

If Pip responds and they get into a slapfight I'll bring the popcorn

And there I was thinking that this weekend was going to be a bit boring Grin

SausageOnAFork · 22/09/2018 08:13

Wait a minute so India is upset because someone has won the award who isn’t trans enough for her liking? (And nothing to do with a man winning a woman’s award of course)
I thought this was being gender fluid. Does that not come under the trans umbrella? Or is it a case of only people that India deems worthy of being trans.

Is this the ‘no true Scotsman’ defence.
So India if someone like Pip here isn’t a true trans person how do we tell when they are dressed as a woman and using women only facilities?

pancaketosser · 22/09/2018 08:13

India only cares because it will impact on India.

Remember when India thought that a website listing women who were murdered was demonising the poor men?

FusionChefGeoff · 22/09/2018 08:12

I'm really hoping this will peak trans a lot more people

AngryAttackKittens · 22/09/2018 08:09

I've owned fishnets but it would never have occurred to me to wear them to work in an office. Also not entirely sure most offices would allow a woman to do so.

SophoclesTheFox · 22/09/2018 08:09

I can't take credit for that one, Charlie, I read it on here.

Sums it up nicely though, eh?

TimeLady · 22/09/2018 08:06

I don't think I've ever owned a pair of fishnets. Who in their right mind would think they were appropriate for work??

Tights or stockings? My moneys on stockings.

AngryAttackKittens · 22/09/2018 07:59

If you criticize another women's outfit, you're just being a bit rude. If you criticize Pip's lacy pink dress and fishnets, that's transphobia and a potential disciplinary offense.

TimeLady · 22/09/2018 07:58

I'm not sure the award in itself means much, tbh. It has however highlighted to the wider world that Bunce is a total insensitive prat. I suspect he has NO inkling of how he is actually perceived at work.

TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 22/09/2018 07:57

I saw on Twitter that there were in fact two inspirational and stunning women on that FT awards list who dip in and out of womanhood as the mood takes them, and why not, don't we all? No, of course we don't.

Nicci Take is the other one. Website says 'BY DAY NICCI TAKE IS A STYLISH, DEMURE, MIDDLE-AGED CHIEF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHO SOMETIMES GOES INTO WORK AS A MAN SO SHE CAN BULLY PEOPLE BETTER'. Lovely.

AngryAttackKittens · 22/09/2018 07:55

If Pip responds and they get into a slapfight I'll bring the popcorn.

Charliethefeminist · 22/09/2018 07:55

India and Pips only disagree about the exact placement of the boot on women's necks.

Thank you for this.