Complaints about the literacy level required to respond to the GRA

What I'd really like to know is which people had a hand in drawing up this 'consultation'.

Putting the consultation online excludes a lot of people, but what we really need is for the government committee to pay proper attention this time to representation from women's expertise in child protection, frontline refuges, rape crisis, prisons, sport and so on

YY. But I suspect they will use Miller's bullshit report for that part. As if nothing has changed.

I've done 5 of these now (supporting family members).

My first one took 2 hrs

We relied on the Fairplay and WPUK (though there's one question where the orgs give opposite answers. Think its one abt 'living as a woman') There's no way friends and family who might be newish to this could complete.

I always pre prepare answers in Word
I always complete the GRA in one go. If you have a Word doc it takes 10 mins
If you cut and paste note that URL links (which I include linking to sources/press coverage) won't transfer across as URL links

I always struggle with the armed forces and insurance quesions

Putting the consultation online excludes a lot of people, but what we really need is for the government committee to pay proper attention this time to representation from women's expertise in child protection, frontline refuges, rape crisis, prisons, sport and so on

A lot of these gov consultations are formatted like this. I firmly believe it is a strategy to limit the number of complete and coherent responses.

hackmum - I suggested on another thread that it might be useful to have a list of examples that we can include for the questions.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3371667-The-consultation

I think some of the RL meetings scheduled before the submission date are targeted at persuading women to fill in forms and express personal perspectives.

I also think it's worth giving examples where you can, e.g. of men in women's prisons, male athletes running in women's races, men in women's refuges etc. It doesn't take long to find cases - just google them or hunt around this board.

I used to work in Government policy and I struggled!

Basically they need:

-Do you think humans can change sex Yes/no

-Do you think male-bodied people should be let into women only spaces? Yes/no

Should people be allowed to be officially recognised as the opposite sex because they say they are? Yes/no

I think that pretty much covers it.

I am hoping to get it done this weekend. I’m about as well informed as I can be about the issues, but the consultation looks daunting to complete. I’m not the most educated or eloquent of people but I’ll give it my best shot. DP wants to do it too, but written communication is not her strongest suit, so I’m thinking the Word document method might be the best, then we can just cut-and-paste into both submissions.

My husband really struggled and he was using the FPFW guide to fill it in.

It took me hours.

We're both degree educated and English is our first language. It was highly confusing.

around question 17 i just wanted it to end

this form is written from the perspective of a trans person answering it...

It is not an exam or a test where you have to put a referenced and researched answer. People can use the form to give their views.

So when they ask about sports for instance you can say " women's sports are for female persons and male persons trying to enter these fields are cheats" or "sport is very important for girls and allowing boys to compete with them is very damaging for girls health and well being"

Sure, some people will be able to go into more technical detail but it is not required from everyone.

arghhhhh

Question 12: Do you think that the participation of trans people in sport, as governed by the Equality Act 2010, will be affected by changing the Gender Recognition Act?
err yes

Do you also think there should be a requirement for a report detailing treatment received?

Who are they reporting to and why?

To avoid losing your answers if you don't complete it in one go, you can type them into a word document, then c&p into the online form once you have completed them all.

You can download the consultation document here
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/721725/GRA-Consultation-document.pdf
The consultation questions are in Annex B starting on p62.

ahh question 3 so they are asking about self id in a round about way then?
Q 3 Do you think there should be a requirement in the future for a diagnosis of gender dysphoria?

The first question is a bit odd if you are a trans person...so the implication is that a non trans shouldnt be answering??
start 21.41

Absolutely agree.

I doubt it. But their voices should be heard. Even if it is someone speaking on their behalf.

as I suspect they'll ignore multiple identical answers.

LGBTWTF Greens are out of luck if that's the case.

Erech.. and women prisoners

I don't know. Are prisoners allowed internet access? I wasn't sure. Sorry for cluelessness on this!

You don't have to answer all the questions. I relied heavily on the Fair Play for Women guidance because otherwise I wouldn't have understood all the questions (and I am fairly smart). I used my own words, though, as I suspect they'll ignore multiple identical answers.

Are we largely underwhelmed by the Easy Read version? (I am - the language choices are problematic.)

consult.education.gov.uk/government-equalities-office/reform-of-the-gender-recognition-act/