'Handmaidens'

I know that Maajid Nawaz has been referred to as a 'Porch Muslim' for having the effrontery to suggest that there may be a problem or two in the Muslim community. Likewise, black people whose views go against the grain are dismissed as 'Uncle Toms'. So there's a risk of denying the opinion of the individual and saying that if you're a member of the community then please see below for a list of acceptable beliefs.

As to whether 'Handmaiden' is a directly comparable insult of choice for those who go against the feminist grain (and not just over Trans issues) I simply don't know as:

a - I don't know enough about the background of this particular term and its usage.
b - from the posts it would appear that the OP has an axe to grind.

WE DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY TERMS TO BE CENSORED ON FWR.

The censorship and banning of words did not come from the women on these boards.

It's incredibly useful to allow people full rein of their personal favourites.

Watching educated women dispute the definition of the word cis is a joy to behold. I'd far rather that, than it be banned.

Likewise the term handmaiden. I'd far rather it was justified, or not, as the case may be.

Transactivists, on the other hand want to make language taboo. So you cannot question or challenge.

They have to. Because their argument is worthless.

Like your Ian Huntley argument Dakinis. He would not be barred from getting a gender recognition certificate, on the basis that he has murdered children. A gender recognition certificate will give him automatic access to be treated as a woman. That's the policy.

No amount of you find it shocking will change that fact.

As I said, the only thing that would stop him actually being transferred to a female prison is the lack of a sufficiently secure unit. Because they don't exist in the female estate. But if they did, that's where he would go. Under the current policy.

The current policy is what feminists are challenging.

Your opinion that prisons wouldn't invoke the policy is rubbish. They are already invoking it for paedophiles and rapists. Then inviting them to the House of Commons to enlighten MPs about their experience.

So yes let's have an amnesty on all banned words.

Because I want your arguments out there. For everyone to see.

More on the qualities of the word handmaiden and it's lack of plosives.

The foot - one accented followed by two un-stressed syllables actually has a calming quality that reminds me of patting down a bedsheet after tucking the corners in. It is perfect for a woman auto pilot carrying out her handmaiden of the Patriarchy duties.

Well, that didn't take long, did it? Less than a dozen posts from more more more, I want more words banned in case uppity women use them to this is because words are literal violence, exactly the same as punching someone.

Colour me shocked.

"The posters who are happy to use it... would you be happy for a teenage girl walking down the street with a transgender friend to be called a handmaiden?"
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This wouldn't happen though.

It's not GC feminists attacking and/or shouting abuse in the streets to people with a differentiating viewpoint.

hoo boy

yeah, let's ban more words

'cos that's going really well

and isn't pointless and stupid at all

You think threats of violence are equivalent to slightly mean words like pathetic?

Are you actually serious? How does your logic work on that?

You'd really think they were on a par?

Threatening actual, real world physical violence (as opposed to "literal" misgendering violence) - and remember some of these people have carried through on those threats - T. Wolf, the bomb threat to the women's meeting.

Versus

Calling someone "pathetic" (which is the insult of choice of 10 to 12 year olds, and any sane adult being confronted with a child whinging about being on the receiving end of said insult would presumably be better placed to teach them some resilience).

Things I’ve seen written precisely nowhere
Punch a handmaiden, handmaiden Nazi scum, die in a fire handmaiden scum, I want to go and fuck up some handmaidens...

I wasn't asking you that question Lass

What ? What question? I quoted a couple of posts by posters and commented on them. Am I supposed to say "this is replying to..."

Again you take what I write out of context. It almost feels like you are doing this on purpose and making it personal

I disagree with a post and that makes it personal? All I said was it was a false analogy.

If you feel it's a false analogy, expand upon the reason why you think it is so. It's not difficult

The Handmaid's Tale is a work of fiction referring to a very particular dystopian, fictitious future. Why would anyone want to ban the use of the book title? What point would there be?

In any case (a) it isn't even the same word and (b) the point of "handmaiden" is to denigrate women who are considered to be willingly complicit with "the patriarchy" - which the handmaids are not.

It all comes back to the bizarre idea that being gender critical means you cannot also be friends with transpeople- and actually, you must hate them.

It feels very similar to the claim that to be a feminist you must also hate men.

you correct your spelling errors on this board, Betty? that's bragging.

('cause only people who hardly ever misspell can afford to do it).

I think purgative is a bloody brilliant typo!

I still think, rather than increasing Orwellian lists of banned words, we should just liberate TERF and TIM and cis. But y'know. I wasn't part of the useless wokeazoid campaign to ban them from FWR in the first bloody place.

I have been shouted at rather a lot in the street. More when younger. Almost always by men. None of it was feminist-theory based. None.

It all comes back to the bizarre idea that being gender critical means you cannot also be friends with transpeople- and actually, you must hate them.

Dakinis

Oh, Huntley was part of the context. But here is what you said:

I know the prison system isn't perfect but sex offenders are never housed with women. That won't change with a GRA reform.

Which evidence in the public domain proves to be a false assertion.

I won't "change the record" because you're the one playing games with truth.

PERJORATIVE. Crikey, Betty. Drink more coffee.

Yes. Double hard consonant, single syllable words are the best purgatives to shout in the street.

I like ‘Cock’ personally, but I would only use it as a retort to a man harassing me. I never start those interactions.

Try shouting out "handmaiden" and see how forceful that feels.

Astutely observed.

That is why the people who actually do all the shouting, do not shout 'you transexlusionary radical feminist!' but the acronym.

always will be.

Sure about that?