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Do we need a third term: not 'cis' or trans?

34 replies

MrsKCastle · 21/09/2018 08:04

I've been thinking about this a lot. Trans ideology likes to split people into cis or trans, making a clear binary. Either you identify as the 'gender assigned at birth' or you identify with a different gender, making you 'cis'.

Like many (most?) feminists, I reject gender completely. I do not feel a gendered sense of self, I do not want others to treat me as a certain gender, I do not have preferred pronouns.

In order to fight trans ideology, I think we need to show the trans vs cis binary for the nonsense that it is. We need to show that there are other ways to exist outside this binary. You can be agender or possibly antigender. Ungendered? What do you think?

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UrsulaPandress · 21/09/2018 08:34

Woman and man is fine by me.

Babdoc · 21/09/2018 08:32

I dislike the the “ transwoman” anyway. It implies that they’re female, or some sort of “woman”, when they’re actually fully biologically male, with XY chromosomes and male genitals.
The fact that they don’t like being a man doesn’t alter the fact that they ARE one.
It’s up to men to accept “trans” as a subset of men who feel happier pretending to be women. It doesn’t mean we should buy into their power games and surrender our (hard fought for) women’s rights.

KlutzyDraconequus · 21/09/2018 08:31

If gender is a social construct and something to be rebelled against, the easiest and clearest option to me is to scrap genders completely and refer to everyone by their biological sex.
Seems the easiest way.

I wonder why trans folk wouldn't want that simple system of definitions?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/09/2018 08:29

we shouldn't buy into the tra bullshit. no additional words needed

all these people who are desperate to say nothing but

I am a....

having loads of daft adjectives is just another way of endlessly boring on about yourself. people with more to think about don't need them

BlardyBlar · 21/09/2018 08:26

I reject the term and will continue to do so.

Complicating issues by adding unnecessary terminology and confusing language is part of the attack on women.

Refuse to comply.

MIdgebabe · 21/09/2018 08:26

I think anything not cis is dfined as trans by stonewall at least

Making many of us here trans...something but I am not sure what exactly. We are hardly transwomen nor transmen.

It's the word woman we have therefore lost

CircumzenithalArc · 21/09/2018 08:17

According to trans ideology, agender is a type of gender so of you are agender you still need to put forth your preferred pronouns which should be "they, them, theirs"... We're trapped.

I don't believe in "non-binary" bs but ppl who do, consider themselves "trans" and therfore the most opressed group evah even though they're usually white, middle class and heterosexual. They want to be known as transgender for points so fine but we should have different qualifiers to distinguish these types and the AGP / Cross dressers types from genuine transsexual people with gender dysphoria. Lumping them all together is wrong and ridiculous.
"Cis" can just go get in the sea.

TerfsUp · 21/09/2018 08:15

No, we do not need a third word. "Women" and "transwomen" are sufficient to describe women and transwomen.

Charliethefeminist · 21/09/2018 08:10

Trans is enough I think.

Just add trans. Women, transwomen etc.

My preference is for transgender woman to mean a woman who is transgender, not a bloke. I think that's how most people think of it, but the media ha been trained differently and confuses everyone.

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