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Times reporting the sacking of Angelos Sofocleous

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Igneococcus · 21/09/2018 07:56

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/student-editor-angelos-sofocleous-fired-in-transphobia-row-fww5ds6nj?shareToken=29c4736b2a8d395f6a4d363319baa99f

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FermatsTheorem · 21/09/2018 09:57

Having done a bit more digging, Sebastián Sánchez-Schilling, the guy who sacked Angelos, looks like he's a postgrad/junior researcher with a genuine and quite informed interest in the virtue ethics theories of Elizabeth Anscombe and Iris Murdoch.

Which is yet another of these conundrums that "woke politics" throws up - this guy has all the ingredients in place to be a genuine feminist ally - knows his stuff about two of the great British women philosophers of the mid-twentieth century, has studied their biographical backgrounds and can place their views in a wider social context as women in academia in a very male-dominated subject (philosophy to this day remains the one subject in the average arts faculty with more men than women studying it, even at undergraduate level) And yet he goes along with an uncritical acceptance of the trans-borg.

FermatsTheorem · 21/09/2018 09:49

It's important, I think, to remember Critique is the university philosophy society's journal - i.e. run by students for students. It's not a peer-reviewed academic journal like, say, Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society. (I know this sounds nit-picky, but it isn't - it's a bit like confusing the "Rummidge" University student science magazine Science with the actual academic journal Science. )

BettyDuMonde · 21/09/2018 09:48

I’m glad he got to write a spectator blog. Fuck editing uni newsletters. Onwards and upwards, Angelos!

WomenRoar · 21/09/2018 09:46

Stories like this will piss off parents who are paying a fortune to have their kids educated at uni, where this BS is playing out.

It also makes working class youth feel better about their career path, and laugh at those who behave as if they are more intelligent than them.

happydappy2 · 21/09/2018 09:42

Have just posted a comment but doubt it will be printed....at least they covered the story. It is rediculous that stating the truth is deeemd transphobic. Stories like this will piss off parents who are paying a fortune to have their kids educated at uni, where this BS is playing out.

BlardyBlar · 21/09/2018 08:33

I can’t give the whole quote, but:

“ xxxx is an acronym, often used as a term of abuse, meaning “trans-exclusionary radical feminist”.

Open statement that this term is considered abusive. The window of acceptable things to say is shifting fast.

pancaketosser · 21/09/2018 08:05

There's so much that sounds utterly ridiculous.

He was sacked for retweeting an article where the headline asks “Is it a crime to say women don’t have penises?”. What was he sacked from? His role at a philosophy journal. For retweeting something. By an e-mail saying that his comments left no room for fair discussions.

It's baffling.

OvaHere · 21/09/2018 08:00

There is also a Spectator article. Apologies if this is a repost

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/how-i-was-hounded-off-campus-for-saying-women-dont-have-penises/