Transsexual is now "offensive" within the trans community...?

But if it isn't the desire for a female body, and the perceived wrongness of their male body, that makes a trans woman a woman; and it isn't the belief that they have the brain of a woman that makes them a woman ... how exactly are they claiming to be women?

How indeed?

None of it makes sense.

But why the people who want to make being trans all about feelings and not about dysphoria would take offence at the doctor who had advocated that these feelings were real 'because brain sex' is just beyond me.

If the idea of 'brain sex' is so offensive to non-binaries that it requires a trigger warning - then non-binaries have no place under the trans umbrella; because that position is in direct opposition to 'I always wanted long hair' 'I undid the poppers on my babygro to make a dress' 'I liked playing with dolls and painting my nails... ergo my brain is female ergo so am I.'

If the anti HBSers continue down their route of claiming it is offensive to suggest you have a female brain in a male body, I can't see how they're not going to end up gunning for the likes of Riley J Dennis.
And that would surely be the dogma eating itself.

Transsexual = someone who has surgery to 'change sex' (I know that isn't really possible).

Transgender = transsexuals, but also anyone who identifies with the gender they weren't 'assigned at birth'. A much wider term.

I had a thought about 'cis'.

If 'cis' means accepting your own body - not having a strong sense that your anatomy is wrong and you want to 'change sex' - that means a lot of people claiming to be trans are actually cis.

If 'cis' means accepting the gender stereotypes associated with your biological sex, that means a lot of people, especially women, aren't cis. So they are non-binary or trans, but they would certainly reject that label.

Either way, 'cis' doesn't work as a definition.

Perhaps I misunderstood - and maybe it's because I couldn't get through all the drivel on SJWiki but, according to that entry, Harry Benjamin was basically a proponent of laydee brain - and the fact that trans women had it. No?
But this angers the SJWs writing the entry as it is 'cissexist' (as opposed to actual sexist - which is what it really is).

But if it isn't the desire for a female body, and the perceived wrongness of their male body, that makes a trans woman a woman; and it isn't the belief that they have the brain of a woman that makes them a woman ... how exactly are they claiming to be women?

I mean 'feelz', sure ... but doesn't that come in under laydeebrain? - which is so 'cissexist' an idea it is worthy of a trigger warning... I just don't get it.
If it's a non-binary issue - then surely this is just the dogma eating itself, non-binaries and mtfs/ftms can't really exist in the space reality because they stand for completely opposing ideologies. And they have to try and support each other because ... trans umbrella - but, they end up shitting all over their own arguments.

Eresh - where have you seen it? On twitter?

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=HBSer&src=typedquery&f=livee__
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https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=HBSers&src=typedd_query&f=live

Some familiar names!

Yes you are probably right.

Racecar, the transsexuals were traditionally gay males who adopted female appearance (up to full surgery, but not always, ie ladyboys)

Charlie I disagree that gay men have been targeted at this stage. They are saving them until last.

It is, but it's verboten to make the distinction in case someone notices that most transwomen have dicks they don't plan on losing.

I thought a transsexuals was someone who had undergone a sex change surgery and complimentary hormonal treatment? As opposed to someone who was merely undergoing a social transition.

On the Trans Media Watch twitter account they put out daily trigger warnings for readers eg 'warning: today's stories covered in the press include transphobia' etc. One of the things they warn for as triggering, is stories about 'pregnancy'. I kid you not.

Eresh I give up - is it triggering to read that some think non-binary identities are not true trans?

Yes I think that will be it!

Eresh - where have you seen it? On twitter?

Eresh I give up - is it triggering to read that some think non-binary identities are not true trans?

I'll just continue saying man in a dress then.

And next: any trans XY with 'passing privilege' will be considered an oppressor

YY I have seen this suggested a few times.

It's been this way for a while, they've sought to erase transexual as a descriptor within media organisations and been largely successful.

The next people after transsexuals to be publicly thrown under the bus by the TRA will be non-op self ID advocates who are deemed to have 'passing privilege'.

The order so far has been
Lesbians
All women
Gay men
Transexual people opposed to self ID
All transexual people
And next: any trans XY with 'passing privilege' will be considered an oppressor

At any stage in this process, any previous trans ally can be cast out and condemned for the slightest demonstration of broadmindedness cf Caroline Lucas

Another thing I have heard them called by transactivists is "HBSers" HBS stands for Harry Benjamin syndrome.

http://sjwiki.org/wiki/HarryBenjaminn_syndrome

(There is a trigger warning - read it and see if you can see why)

DryHeave yes it is represented by two hanging feathers because that is the symbolism that two spirit people use... Two Spirit and Intersex don't belong under the trans umbrella though, and putting them there is reductive and harmful. But that single graphic does not represent the beliefs of the entire community, and to use it as if it does is also reductive.

(from the picture)

Trans Umbrella: Encompasses any individual who crosses over or challenges their society's traditional gender roles and/or expressions.

Surely that definition includes gender-critical women?
This could start getting very confusing

Is “two spirit” illustrated by two hanging feathers? Do they realise that is cultural appropriation and offensive? Or does offence only happen TOWARDS them?

The term cross dressing to mean a man wearing dresses etc is ridiculous, I'm a woman so am I cross dressing when I wear trousers? Men and woman should be able to wear dresses and skirts or trousers without it being a big deal.

Has anyone got Ruth Hunt on speed dial? Stonewall, and their all-encompassing 'trans umbrella', needs a redraw! Better phone Scottish Trans straight afterwards!

How 'transgender' all started was to piggyback into the LGB (which already had Drag Queens and Transsexuals) and claim to be the new but undiscovered variation. After a takeover of the LGBnowT organisations, one by one, they are jettisoning the original inhabitants. First Lesbian, then Drag Queens, and I guess now, Transsexuals are next on the list. Welcome to your erasure TS, we will have a to mull it over, join the L and the W.

I guess Gay Men will eventually be shamed out of the LGBT, perhaps that will require GM to be deemed 'transphobic' for NOT 'transitioning'. Then the erasure of homosexuality will be complete.

Lesbians were the canaries in the coal mine on this. Followed by Class Woman, followed by the other letters in the alphabet. Perhaps listen to women next time, eh?