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Someone help me hold my arms up...

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FloralBunting · 19/09/2018 23:24

...because they are flagging under the weight of parenting a troubled daughter amongst all the other stuff.

I'm posting this here, rather than elsewhere on MN, because I'm reasonably sure to get a decent amount of genuinely compassionate responses from GC women.

As some of you know, my daughter is struggling with 'trans identity' issues and has been for sometime. She had a really wobbly episode this evening, and DP is handling it all very poorly. He's probably dealing with some depression himself, but he is appallingly defensive about everything, and is taking my daughter's mental state as an attack on him.

So she's sobbing this evening about how much she hates her body as it is, and shouting at everyone, and I am trying to hold everything together after three night shifts, and instead of trying to help me, or support me, or even just make a cup of tea, DP has gone to bed because he's tired and sick of the drama.

Well, yeah, it's not very entertaining in our house right now. But I don't get to check out. A CAHMS appointment is coming up next week and it will be me going, of course. I am buckling under the weight of this and all the other normal day to day stuff and work stress.

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arranfan · 20/09/2018 22:27

FB - hope that your plan of today went well and that you had a thoroughly enjoyable time watching Netflix.

I, too, welcome casserole and soup weather as easier ways of offering vegetables to people. :)

BettyDuMonde · 20/09/2018 21:27

Sorry I missed this yesterday, FB

Supporting a complicated teenage is exhausting, isn’t it?

When you see CAMHS can you push for some support for you?

When my son was off the rails we did 6 months of MST (multi systemic therapy) and it changed everything. We got this through the NHS and had to get to a crisis point first but knowing what I know now I would’ve happily done family therapy, self funded if necessary and got started a lot earlier.

A family therapist will be able to help your DP understand why leaving you to deal with it isn’t fair (and also, isn’t nearly as effective as both of you working together).

I used to think therapy was a pile of old tat, but when I stopped resisting and actually tried it, it was very useful.

If family therapy doesn’t seem doable right now, perhaps just a couple of sessions of plain old counselling just for you, to give you a chance to offload outside of the family home, will be worthwhile.

It’s like the oxygen masks on the plane, gotta get your own one on first.

Xx

SophoclesTheFox · 20/09/2018 20:54

glad to hear you had a better day today, floral

Your posts are invaluable here - you're so sparky and intelligent and it shines through. You are heard Smile

KatVonGulag · 20/09/2018 20:38

It's like a storm with some teenagers. Now all this gender mind fuckery to deal with too.

Glad you had a better day Flowers strong mum

pombear · 20/09/2018 20:18

Floral I missed this yesterday. So glad to hear you've had a more peaceful day, but it sounds like a continual rollercoaster.

You're definitely not writing into a void - compassion and empathy doesn't always translate through the written word, but it's lovely to see so much of it over today for you.

I was one of 'those' teenagers who caused my parents massive concern, not through 'gender' issues, but as many above, through the mire of trying to navigate teenage mental health and puberty.

I still don't know how they coped. I couldn't change what happened but now, as a parent myself, understand how difficult it must have been for them to support me.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 20/09/2018 17:35

You are so not shouting into a void, Floral , you're a poster whose name I recognise on the board and always has something thought provoking to say.

So sorry you're going through this Flowers it's good to hear that today is looking like going more gently.

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LangCleg · 20/09/2018 15:43

So happy to hear that today is an improvement, Floral.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 20/09/2018 15:30

Im pleased youve had a nice day floral

FloralBunting · 20/09/2018 15:22

Thank you so much. I am so heartened by your responses. Lovely gentle day, kids now coming home in dribs and drabs, a good phonecall with DP on his lunch break, and DD was a bit more settled this morning. I'm trying to get her to eat properly, so I'm glad it's casserole weather because that's a good way to get more veggies in her.

Oh, and thanks for the comments about my posts. Sometimes you can feel that you're telling into a void, but it's great to know that I'm helping someone with what I'm writing. And thanks for the donation the pp made in response to this. That's brilliant.

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KittyKlawsReturns · 20/09/2018 13:49

Floral - I find these boards hard sometimes and I am not living through it like you. How your children feel affects you so much and in addition to work etc. I echo everyone else and say you should look after yourself. I enjoy your posts very much you have a most unique and difficult perspective (in that you are experiencing this first hand). Thank you for your posts - we are here to support you and your daughter is lucky to have you there for her Flowers

(a ps: I too have noticed that men can check out/go to bed/ go out for a bit but women must continue to carry on - so extra Flowers for that.

Forgotthebins · 20/09/2018 11:47

Floral Flowers. You write such great articulate posts which have really helped my thinking, I had no idea you are also living through this. I know what it feels like to support a child (though on a different issue) and it can be all consuming so Cake and Wine. I can't do much else for you from a distance so I made the donation to FPFW that I've been meaning to for a while.

stillathing · 20/09/2018 10:19

floral i agree with other posters here. you do sound like a great mum. i hope you are enjoying some time alone today. and don't do the stuff you need your partner to do for you, the housework or tea making. if you don't do it, its not being done will act as a visual prompt to kick him into action. hopefully!

Wrathofjurgenklop · 20/09/2018 09:49
Flowers Hang in there Floral, you are the best person to handle this situation. You may not feel this at the moment but your thoughtful posts on MN indicate you are a strong wise woman. May the road rise with you.
gendercritter · 20/09/2018 09:40

Flowers for you. I struggled so much as a teen with my body and have very much come out the other side if that helps the tiniest bit. You sound like a great mum.

OvaHere · 20/09/2018 09:20

flowers fail, please have some more Flowers

OvaHere · 20/09/2018 09:19

[Flowers] Floral

I'm having a hard time with my DS albeit for different reasons. As other posters have said the daily grind really wears you down and you are always on alert for the next crisis point.

I hope things are a little better today.

BeUpStanding · 20/09/2018 09:14

Flowers for all the mums and Flowers for all the girls, including us when we were young. Women are amazing.

Hope you got some sleep Floral x

birdbandit · 20/09/2018 09:12

You will get through this.

This is all shit, and I wish I knew what to suggest, what action would magically make this better.

All I can suggest is to try as hard as you can to make your presence, your company a warm and comforting place for YOU and your child. If you achieve that, then your child will value you and your guidance.

Massive hugs from me to you.

MsMcWoodle · 20/09/2018 09:03

Sorry to hear this Floral. Sending you my support and just wanted to tell you that your posts are really good value. I know you are doing a great job.

placemats · 20/09/2018 09:03

Sending support and hugs across the internet.

Make today a day for a relaxing bath, comfort food/drink and TV.

Flowers
LangCleg · 20/09/2018 08:54

More love and empathy from me too, Floral. Why do men think they can just check out of this stuff for a bit when they want to? Even the good ones do it.

My oldest had a hard time for a while during adolescence and the low level hum of it doesn't leave you even when it's not crisis moment, does it?

I second the recommendation of Anne with an E (first series) if you haven't seen it already. It's lovely.

Flowers
BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/09/2018 08:40

Flowers Floral

I hope you get that bath, Netflix and comfort food today

May I recommend Anne with an E (seaon 1, it gets a bit woke in season 2) and macaroni cheese?

Anlaf · 20/09/2018 08:40

Cake to you floral (and your dd)

A little like posters upthread I was a difficult, eating disordered, rebellious teen. Actually, with a defensive, emotion-checking-out-of pa.

But my mum was wonderful. And we got through.

May Netflix bring you peace.

Starkstaring · 20/09/2018 08:29

Floral - going through something similar, although my daughter is older. Dealing with mental ill health in your child is really horrible, especially so when ideology has replaced clinical evidence. I do hope CAMHS are helpful.
You are obviously so strong and a fighter, your DP is taking advantage of the fact that he knows you will keep going. Which isn't fair on you.
I had a period of mental illness which stemmed from my DD's mental health problems (preceding the trans announcement). In some ways it was helpful because DH had to go to appointments with DD and do the difficult things. It was good for all of us.
All the best to you.

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