Transman gives birth - wants to be father/parent

He wanted to be the father, the mother gets Child Benefit.
Is it really only the mother that gets child benefit? I didn't realise that.

They want it all ways don't they.

He wanted to be the father, the mother gets Child Benefit. Simple really, nothing complicated.
If they win this, it will open up a whole can of worms and women will once again not have any control over money for their children if they live with a controlling abusive bastard. They have found another way to try and fuck women over.

I don’t even know where to begin with this.

Its going to fuck up future family trees of birth certificates can record parental self id or even GRC's.

Glad to see a victory for common sense over feelz.

Interesting case on similar issue
www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2015/990.html

Not to be pedantic... But a TERJ

It's a current case. I thought that was well balanced for P News - because they lifted it straight from The Times.

I wouldn't fancy being the judge on that case if he rules 'mother' on the BC. The trans lobby will label the judge a JERF!

Didn’t this also happen in Germany last year? The court threw the case out iirc.

The new parent, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, has filed a legal challenge against complex rules which require people who give birth to be listed as mothers on birth certificates.

There’s some serious linguistic gymnastics going on here.

So technically this child could end up with a birth certificate with no mother named on it? Brilliant.

If we say 'person who gave birth'

I'm only saying change it in cases such as these. Certainly not for everyone.

Where would this stop though, if a birth cert has already been issued and a parent decides to change their gender would they be able to get a childs birth cert changed too.

I can't see why? If after I have registered my child's birth and then get re married I can't change my name on the birth certificate, it stays as it was when the birth was registered.

My husband's name was changed by deed poll but his birth certificate still shows his original name so he has to show his birth certificate and deed poll as ID.

Wouldn't this be the same?

Where would this stop though, if a birth cert has already been issued and a parent decides to change their gender would they be able to get a childs birth cert changed too.

Perhaps that should have been thought about before people were legally allowed to change their sex...

Certainly the law should have considered what would happen in just such a scenario. I guess they assumed that anyone legally changing their sex/gender would not then give birth or father children.

Certainly the birth parent should have thought through the consequences before embarking on pregnancy.

Maybe in cases such as these the term mother could be changed to person who gave birth or similar? But left as mother for everyone happy to be recognised as mother.

They presumably want to force a precedent into case law.

Actually I hop they do set a precedent, that the person who is pregnant and gives birth is a women (or girl) and the mother. I hope even the ECHR confirms this. If they don't the world really has gone mad.

'Mother' in the context of a birth certificate is a function of sex not gender.

The parenting role 'mothering' can be performed by anyone

Perhaps that should have been thought about before people were legally allowed to change their sex...

IMO this person should be recorded on this documentation as the mother. What they then go on to refer to themselves as is up to them. If necessary, change birth certificates to say "parent 1 (parent who gave birth to child), usually known as the mother.

Agree totally that the case is not being brought in the interests of the child.

@AssassinatedBeauty

Thank you. Just got me wondering about other situations and what happened in those instances.

I guess a legal decision needs to be made as to how this will be handled now if people will be allowed to legally change their sex whilst still retaining their original reproductive organs.

It is always the woman that was pregnant and gave birth recorded as the mother on the birth certificate. In the case of surrogacy, the parental rights are then signed over to the new parents if the surrogate agrees to do this.

Would you not consider issues such as though before you embarked on a pregnancy? Presumably the person who gave birth to the child realised that they couldn't be recorded as the father because that is the person that provides the sperm.

Out of interest what is the situation whereby a child is born using a surrogate but egg and sperm from the genetic parents? Who is recorded as mother in these cases or is still the woman who gave birth?

The erasure of mothers. Great :(

Utter madness. Just say NO people

Totally agree noeffing

although I'm not sure why you'd then carry through a pregnancy which lets face it is pretty much the most female thing you can do

This may be controversial but I believe (most) women have a biological urge to have babies. At a guess I would say this persons biological programming overrode their current fashion interests.