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Transman gives birth - wants to be father/parent

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OhHolyJesus · 19/09/2018 15:11

Ok so this trans stuff is really starting to piss me off. Men competing in female sports, the whole toilet/changing room debate and most recently the selfish ones who say they need a mastectomy more than cancer patients (who happen to be women).

This one though, this one - somehow it's made me think about mothers and why it matters - why can't this transman be registered legally as a mother and call himself a father or parent in all other ways?

I mean he was born a woman!

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BeUpStanding · 19/09/2018 23:04

Someone yep I saw that too. It was difficult to watch two such ridiculous and self-absorbed people.

Here it is. Be warned you'll need to warm up your eye-rolling and cats-bum-face muscles before watching this in case you strain something...

ContentiousOne · 19/09/2018 22:38

Oh good, let's erase mothers.

it is quite horrifying living in these times.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/09/2018 22:35

Gestational Parent

Menstruator, ovulator, gestational parent...wow, almost like biology was important in some indefinable way.

someonekillbabyshark · 19/09/2018 22:34

I watched a documentary on YouTube 2 'trans' women that looked like women but dressed like men and one was pregnant!! They were SOOO pissed of when the baby was born that 1- the woman that gave birth couldn't be put on the birth certificate as the father and that 2- the other none biological 'mother' wasn't aloud on the birth certificate as father #2. I just found it fu**ing hilarious TBH. If you carry a child YOU ARE A WOMAN!!! If you want to be a man you can't then pick and choose how you go about it by getting yourself pregnant !!!! Really irritates me and find it quite offensive to people who have fully transitioned and gone through the hardships of dealing with that !

take GI GI Gorgeous for example on YouTube she is a huge star in the trans world and has been for years I truly found her inspiration for the LGBT community, than not long ago came out with a video saying she still had her penis and had been actively trying to get her girlfriend pregnant by having sex with her? I just can't

Numbkinnuts · 19/09/2018 22:15

Happy Gestational Parent Day !

Just doesn't have the same ring to it ! Confused

HunnyBunnyXX · 19/09/2018 22:06

The term I have seen being used in Twitter to replace “Mother” is “Gestational Parent”.

Mothercare are are going to be shocked when they hear they have to rebrand to avoid being transphobic. GeststionalParentCare isn’t quite as catchy.

Turph · 19/09/2018 21:36

I thought you were talking about the telly programme
"can I have a T please Bob"

Wrathofjurgenklop · 19/09/2018 21:32

Seriously, at what point do they start to be concerned about the baby?
Do they stop taking testosterone and start HRT? How is this considered safe for a developing foetus?

Worth a try I suppose Confused

BrownPaperTeddy · 19/09/2018 21:16

Could have been worse. Imagine if Blockbusters was still around.

I thought you were talking about the telly programme with Bob Hollness for a minute Grin

DickTERFin · 19/09/2018 21:13

Could have been worse. Imagine if Blockbusters was still around. Getting a Blockbusters card was way harder than a passport or a birth certificate.

Grin
Turph · 19/09/2018 21:12

Getting a Blockbusters card was way harder than a passport or a birth certificate
True!
I could understand a trans man feeling dysphoria and hatred to their female anatomy and seeking to transition to alleviate that. I can't see how being a man and wanting to be pregnant and give birth overlap.
Yeah I don't get this at all

OlennasWimple · 19/09/2018 21:11

Look at the ad that just popped up on my side bar....

www.nightlight.org/snowflakes-embryo-adoption-donation/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2P-S6O_H3QIVxmrBCh1sDwbmEAEYASAAEgJ-TvD_BwE

(Which has given me the rage - "embryo adoption" - what an awful phrase)

AspieAndProud · 19/09/2018 21:08

Could have been worse. Imagine if Blockbusters was still around. Getting a Blockbusters card was way harder than a passport or a birth certificate.

MaisyPops · 19/09/2018 21:01

Men cannot give birth.
Fact.

What I can't get my head around is the cognitive dissonance of 'I am a man and am in no way female at all... but I want a female reproductive system, carry a baby for 9 months, give birth etc' which to me are very much womanly things.
I could understand a trans man feeling dysphoria and hatred to their female anatomy and seeking to transition to alleviate that. I can't see how being a man and wanting to be pregnant and give birth overlap.

BeyondAnOmnishambles · 19/09/2018 20:57

Coming up next... cismother

Batteriesallgone · 19/09/2018 20:50

Of course part of the reason ‘mother’ is such a loaded term is because patriarchy. Which you can’t identify out of, unfortunately. And considering gender identity concepts are a pillar of the patriarchy this feels like a snake eating its tail.

There is no winner here. You cannot identify out of patriarchy.

KirbyTheFirst · 19/09/2018 20:45

The DM referenced the passport earlier. That British citizenship had been proved or words to that effect.

Guessing the parent took on passport at the same time hoping for a row with them too but they found a way around it!

KirbyTheFirst · 19/09/2018 20:44

This kid is going to be so annoyed when he gets to the “mother’s maiden name” security question

Numbkinnuts · 19/09/2018 20:43

Agree. How did they get a passports with a BC ?

OlennasWimple · 19/09/2018 20:38

I'm so upset for this poor baby who is being used in this way.

Just register the birth already, then claim CB

(I'm completely perplexed by how they got a passport without a BC though)

ChattyLion · 19/09/2018 20:27

Errol that poor baby Andrew’s story has made me cry. Christ, what a start in life. Sad

IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan · 19/09/2018 20:21

Yep- it’s their biology over ruling them. Wink

BrownPaperTeddy · 19/09/2018 20:20

Nothing to do with the thread but that article is heartbreaking. I hope his mum is ok too.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 19/09/2018 20:19

If the person who gave birth here is so adamant rhat they are a man... Then why did they choose to get pregnant and give birth - surely a very female thing?

Numbkinnuts · 19/09/2018 20:17

A man cannot give birth

A woman is biological designed to give birth

How can you want to identify as a man but still want to give birth as only a woman can.

FFS !

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