Transman gives birth - wants to be father/parent

I think it's an assumption to know what it's like to live in my own sex body tbh. I know what it feels like to be me. How much of that is the same or different to other women I have no idea or how much I have in common I have with men either.

This is probably my own lack of insight or imagination or something, I don't know.

I just don't ever think (to risk sounding like Shania Twain) that I feel like a woman. I feel like me.

I think everyone's mental picture of what it feels like to be the opposite sex is part assumption, part fantasy, and part attempt to extrapolate based on observation. It's impossible to really know what it feels like to live in a body other than your own, in the same way that I can't really know what it feels like to be 6ft4 (but the differences between my experience and that of a man my own height are far more profound than the differences between my experience and that of a tall woman).

Maybe not the place to ask but genuinely what does it "feel" like to be male or female?

I am female but I don't think I know what it feels like to be female. I feel like me. If I were male would I feel differently?

Or is it more to do with the physical appearance? More like, and I'm not trying to make light of this, but if I hated my nose pr ears?

How do I know that my physical body matches my identity? I really hope I haven't offended anyone. I just find it a strange concept. It's not like I can experience feeling like a man so that I can compare which one fits better and then this assumes that all men or all women would have the same "feel" doesn't it?

nicenewdusters
I would imagine that a trans man with genuine dysphoria would find anything linked to their biologically female anatomy quite distressing. I also can't imagine those transmen going through pregnancy.

All situations like this highlight is that there are perfectly genuine trans people who experience dysphoria and transition to alleviate their dysphoria and then there is a 2nd group who are all about their feels and play marginalised top trumps (with bonus points for silencing women). I fear the second group with their hateful TRA agenda are not only going to harm women's rights but make life considerably more difficult for the genuine trans people in group 1.

I've often read that it's too triggering for transmen to menstruate, go through puberty, because they do not identify with the female body they inhabit. So I'm surprised a transman managed to contemplate and complete a pregnancy. But then having your cake and eating it was always popular.

Well I want the law to be changed to require all libraries to be open for 24 hours a day, seven days a week and the stock list to be approved by me and my DC. Which would not be the most selfish or harmful thing in the world, but it aint' gonna happen, however much I complain in a documentary

BeUpStanding

I just watched the program... mostly with an open mouth.

Is it wrong that I kept thinking that with better literacy criticism skills they may have a deeper understanding of Wilde's 'A Picture of Dorian Grey' and perhaps not idolised the central character quite so much?

(I am also noticing the phrase 'I want' / 'you must' seems a recurring refrain within trans rights activism)

I have no idea, YeTalk. It was just a word that I thought would be appropriate. But now I am starting to regret that idea...

Hmm will they claim Maternity Leave or Paternity leave?

With hindsight I should have got DH to identify as a woman when the DC were born, he could have had the full 12 months maternity leave (civil servant and I’m a sahm so it’s not like I was claiming anything).

TerfsUp isn’t that what they call it when men (usually trying to be funny ) tuck their bits away and pretend to be a woman and then for some reason put it online?

Manwomb - mangina, has a certain ring to it, don't you think?

Haha no worries OP.

But in all seriousness I don’t think theres any need for ad hominem attacks. This is stir crazy on its own merits.

I really struggle with the picking and choosing aspects of all this. And that BBC video really surprises me because I’ve been socialised as a woman and cannot imagine being so self-centred and rude to someone like a midwife who is simply doing their job and who says things like “pregnant woman” 1,000 times a day. It’s not a personal attack. I feel bad for the staff who have to focus on pronouns rather than safely delivering a baby.

‘Ladypeen & Manwomb’ - Fox & Owl’s next rebrand.

*themself not herself. Didn’t mean to cause offence.

They can’t, until the biological mother gets over herself and realises that this isn’t about their identity, it’s about their child’s right to a legal identity which their prevaricating is preventing.

I haven't rtft but how will they register the child's birth at all?? What box will they tick for the question what sex is the child?? Because sex is still used on birth certificates not gender. Are they really going to accept the sex the midwife "assigned" at birth. Maybe that will be the next campaign to do away with the sex question on all birth certificates.

Point for the good side of female socialization in that Dorian got upset about things that happened in the hospital but rather than going on an angry, vengeful rampage and trying to get staff fired decided to focus on the fact that now there's a baby, which is what Dorian had wanted, so let's get on with being a parent and bonding with the baby.

"Why can't I be the father?"

"Because the baby came out of your vagina"

Really, this isn't complicated.

Hey Jesus, it's quite breathtaking isn't it? It baffles me how anyone can take them seriously.

It's such an isolating situation to put yourself in - to deliberately cut yourself off from women whilst pregnant and becoming a mother. I suppose that's also the attraction though, to be special and different.

A man can have a GRC and go on to rape multiple women and assault children.

A woman can have a GRC and go on to give birth to 6 children. Breastfeeding them all.

They will, however, be considered the opposite sex.

You certainly can have a GRC that states you are legally male, and then go on to be pregnant and give birth. A GRC doesn't need any surgery or hormone treatment to be done before it's granted. It's very possible to retain your female reproductive system and then make use of it.