Confused

Dakinis. Was that response to me?

Nope. One can't object to being called a TERF then go round calling other women handmaidens. The irony!

Of course you are a handmaiden. No woman who cares for the safety of other females and kids would do what you do Dakinis. If you were not born male then in my opinion it is akin to being a handmaiden. You can fight for trans rights without damaging the safety of your own sex if you are female. My response has nothing to do with whether I’m a rad fem or lib fem or whatever class of feminism is there to support my view. My stance is as a female. I am female hear me roar. That’s it. Pure and simple.

Saying TW sex offenders wouldn't be placed in women's prisons isn't an "opinion". It's untruthful.

Peaked, Dakinis thinks you're one of those mean and nasty exclusionary rad fems. They know now they can't lure you away from the uncomfortable realities of their male-centering version of 'feminism' by appealing to your female socialization, so they're just going to whine a bit about how mean rad fems are without addressing any of the substantive points put to them beyond saying "It's just an admin change and the bad stuff will never happen!"

Opinions can't be wrong barracker - they are just that, opinions.

A lot of the TRA ideology isn’t opinion, it’s belief. Beliefs are often demonstrably falsifiable.

I can’t prove whether there’s a god one way or another. I can however demonstrate that the earth orbits the sun, and that humans cannot change sex.

When I’m ordered to believe something I know to be empirically false I’m afraid what I think is, and yet it moves

Opinions can't be wrong barracker - they are just that, opinions

I know the prison system isn't perfect but sex offenders are never housed with women. That won't change with a GRA reform.

I know I'm making the basic error of constructing my argument out of logic and facts for a poster who is immune to both. But for the lurkers...

Dakini's latter statement disproves the former.

Op I was this fifth poster on this thread to answer you and have addressed your OP throughout. Your choice not not like the answer.

Our kids

And that’s how they get are kids. They label them when they are questioning. We, as adults see through it. Our young kids/adults are gaslighted. In my opinion

Yet you know enough to label me a handmaiden. Pull the other one OP.

As I keep pointing out, the current law works on the basis of self ID. All this fear about males identifying as female and using female spaces. They've been doing it for 14 years. Legally. For 14 years.

It's bullshit. A tiny number of males used the women's loo and were tolerated. Obvious men don't tend to go in the women's loo outside particularly woke areas. It's a social contract. Males stay out in general. Look at any thread on here where a man goes into the ladies.

Plus this aggressive push into all women's spaces has only been going on here since 2015 and the fuckwitted Trans Inquiry.

Opinions are get out clauses. We all use them as a defense mechanism. It is my opinion that dogs are cats. In my head I’m validated. But the world knows my opinion is wrong. But it’s my opinion. I have a right to say it. We are entitled to believe what we want. We are not entitled to demand others believe us. In my opinion

There seems to be a lot of talk about not speaking for other women. Which is fair enough. You shouldn't do that without permission.

So I'm giving a few that permission for me (on this subject only!)

Datun
Angry
Bewilderness
Barracks
Eresh

There's more but that will do to start.

Ladies, you may speak for me.

Wield the power wisely!

Ereshkigal

FWIW I don't believe you're a handmaiden

OOOH nice one! 😁

If you're confused about why the word is being used in this context it goes some way to explaining why you're also confused about the reality of self ID. Try reading the book again.

Opinions can't be wrong barracker - they are just that, opinions.

Tip top, obvs

You should see what those top top all round excellent feminists who get called handmaidens say about women who don't agree with them though.

Your opinion on rapist men in women's prisons was wrong, Dakinis.

How have you got along with correcting your mindset there?
Or does that bother you less than getting short shrift from people who are better informed than you?

I know exactly what it means which is why I'm surprised it is being used in this context.

The term handmaiden references The Handmaid's Tale, it has an actual specific feminist meaning. Try reading the book. It's a feminist seminal piece.

Precisely!