Confused

Dakinis

How will you know if you have equality of the sexes if you can't distinguish between the sexes?

Of course it's possible to be a feminist and not subscribe to the majority view on here. Rad fems are just one group of people and their views are not shared by all.

I'm with Dakinis.
"The vast majority of feminists are focused on equality of the sexes and don't have any beef with treating trans people as the gender with which they identify."

Not a theorist myself, nor would I have called myself a 'feminist' ten years ago.
However from my perspective, unisex toilets (changing rooms, boardrooms) would be fine if everyone had the same strength, power, self-confidence etc (pick your word - I understand the preferred word by second-wave is power). So maybe in Ally McBeal's legal offices, but even then, bullying did occur there!

Not so fine where there are structural differences, which is reality, I'm afraid.
We would love to think we are 'equal' to men, as teenagers I'm sure we would have loved to think we were 'equal' to adults. Unfortunately that is not the case. I think now (from the height of lived experience as a middle-aged, middle-class, white, well educated mother) that policy must be made based on reality, not on wishful thinking, and based on the reality of those who have fewer possibilities to 'just move to another toilet/space/refuge...', not the reality of those of us who can afford to shrug off / ignore / pretend those imbalances of power do not exist even for us.

Yes of course. The feminism on this board is mainly radical feminism (rad fem) and very resistant to accepting TWAW.

The vast majority of feminists are focused on equality of the sexes and don't have any beef with treating trans people as the gender with which they identify.

Lots of women whether they say they are feminists or not are uncomfortable at the idea of mixed sex communal changing, showering, prisons, hospital wards and so on.

Most women in the world I am sure, if anyone actually asked, would say no we do not want men in these places.

Of course nobody has asked.

Hi! Welcome!

Depends on how you define ‘Feminism’!

Round here we mostly (but not exclusively) go with a definition based on the ‘second wave’ of feminism which is something like ‘advocacy for the liberation of women and girls worldwide’ rather the newer ‘equality for all’ type definition which is more properly described as ‘Egalitarianism’ in my opinion).

Feminism isn’t a political party though, just a bunch of shared ideas and common actions so there is no absolute definition.

This thread is a great place to start re: why self ID and feminism aren’t compatible.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

Of course it's possible to be a feminist and not agree with the commonly held views on here. This letter by feminists after the London Pride protest demonstrates that.

solidaritystatement650530505.wordpress.com/

Personally I don't believe in all inclusive toilets and changing rooms, and I think most, if not all MNs feel the same. Potentially they will be very dangerous to women and girls. We have to resist this trendy nonsense.