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This is wrong right?

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DukeOfSussex · 18/09/2018 19:31

If your teenage daughter had her first week at the University of Sussex this week this is what found in her welcome bag.

A Pot Noodle, A tablet of washing detergent, a sim card and an individual sized portion of instant coffee.

AND

A picture of a woman designed to look like she has spunk dripping down her face to sell toothbrushes. "whether you spit or swallow during your twice daily oral regime..."

She'll also find a drinks night event by the Student union being advertised all over campus. It has a picture of a dead eyed half naked woman laying in an empty bath...which advertises what? Fuck knows.

She will also find a copy of the student newspaper in her bag. On the front cover at the very top of the page is an article entitled "Transphobia and toilets". This is discussing the recent words of University of Sussex philosophy professor Kathleen Stock who dared to very (politely) question some aspects of trans theory.

Your daughter, if disabled, will also be concerned to see that some of the disabled toilets have been declared "for all genders". Which is lovely and inclusive but not ideal if you're disabled and need a wee and need to wait for an able bodied non binary male wearing lipstick to go for a shit first.

She will find that the "This Sussex Girl Can" all women only classes are open to all "women, trans gender people and non binary individuals" so just mixed classes basically .

So far so expected of university in general but what upsets me is that people wanted Kathleen Stock's job for having an opinion. She caused students to feel "unsafe" with her very words, but in a world where women are literally unsafe and sexual assault is endemic in universities, Sussex student union didn't think twice before objectifying its female students. If your employer gave you a goody bag with this card in it you could rightfully be making a formal complaint to your HR department. Why is it appropriate for university?

We can't discuss why it's always a woman advertising drinks, or toothbrushes without discussing women and the group of people who actually deal with the real repercussions of being women. It's a bloody joke.Why don't people care about actual sexism, real life objectification of women.

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IAmLurkacus · 20/09/2018 22:14

Quite ageist I thought. Should she not know age is a protected characteristic? She’s just committed a hate crime against hundreds of posters. Shall we call South Yorks police?

DukeOfSussex · 20/09/2018 22:14

It was along the lines of "don't drink too much ladz, you'll fuck a moose (the actual word) and regret it in the morning"

While obviously the one directed at women was "don't drink too much or you'll get raped

We need a "resigned" emoji.

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 20/09/2018 22:14

I had to skim read a 75 page legal document on here the other day cos a poster had misunderstood a section

The poster was lovely to be fair...but it was a complete waste of my time

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 20/09/2018 22:12

oh dear

I went on mumsnet

Told them what i thought and ive now won all the arguments ...all the arguments there are , and all the arguments there will be

I rebutted the arguments...by refusing to post (cos mumsnet is really very scary)

If i were following ruth on twitter id be fairly pissed off that i read the entire thread to see her take down...and then not see any take down

They must be so disappointed

Ereshkigal · 20/09/2018 22:09

Plus the LITERAL VIOLENCE of her mis-generationing many people on the thread!

Ereshkigal · 20/09/2018 22:07

Like OP I fear her legal career will be short lived if she thinks all you need to do to win an argument is state your opinion.

Ereshkigal · 20/09/2018 22:04

Oh dear

You can't argue with stupid. It's my twitter maxim.

IAmLurkacus · 20/09/2018 22:03

I think the government could utilise this in an anti drugs campaign. ‘Don’t snort coke while you’re working or you too may have a ‘brushbox’ idea’

BoreOfWhabylon · 20/09/2018 22:01

Oh dear

This is wrong right?
Ereshkigal · 20/09/2018 22:00

While obviously the one directed at women was "don't drink too much or you'll get raped".

RichardLongcross · 20/09/2018 21:58

That's top bantz right there Eresh, don't know what you're being so uptight about.

cinammonrollsnotgenderroles · 20/09/2018 21:57

I've just written to dig in and complained. Ffs. I thought we'd left stuff like that behind in the 70s. I feel sorry for both the male and female students being peddled this shit and who might worry that this is the norm they have to live up to. For this trash puts pressure on all of them. My heart weeps for them. I'm so glad I'm not 20 now.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 20/09/2018 21:57

sophocles

Ive been waiting ages for the science smack down

Honestly....ages

Ereshkigal · 20/09/2018 21:55

What was the gov one about?!

It was along the lines of "don't drink too much ladz, you'll fuck a moose (the actual word) and regret it in the morning"

SophoclesTheFox · 20/09/2018 21:51
Grin

Can't believe that weasly apology. Or the utter lack of brainpower that led to that stupid image in the first place. Bloody hell.

BabyTeeth · 20/09/2018 21:48

Usual ASA excuse is we ran the Ad past our mainly white man panel and they said we can’t legislate for what ladies find in bad taste, sorry.

But I have just checked the current panel and they look much more representative than previous incarnations. So it may be taken seriously.

One panel member interestingly is a member of the Board of the General Dental Council and is Chair of its Remuneration Committee. Could go either way - ie he knows enough about Dentistry to see how this is the worst dental ad on the history of advertising OR he is in a dental bro network with Head Dental Advisory Bro of Brushbox who is ‘the principal and owner of one of South Wales most respected dental practices’.

GColdtimer · 20/09/2018 21:41

"On the one hand the user wants to fight sexism, on the other the user seems openly transphobic against a trans FEMALE. Should only cis ladies be protected? He/She wants to raise awareness for women’s problems in real life and takes away people’s rights to BE a woman?"

I'm sorry but I like to think I'm quite an intelligent woman but I have no idea WTF that means.

DukeOfSussex · 20/09/2018 21:38

What was the gov one about?!

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Ereshkigal · 20/09/2018 21:35

I reported quite a similarly sexist lairy ad to the ASA once. It was a government one! They informed me and my friend who also reported it that other people had also done so but they weren't going to do anything because reasons. I can't even remember the lame excuse.

Ereshkigal · 20/09/2018 21:33

On the one hand the user wants to fight sexism, on the other the user seems openly transphobic against a trans FEMALE. Should only cis ladies be protected? He/She wants to raise awareness for women’s problems in real life and takes away people’s rights to BE a woman?

The stupid hurts.

BabyTeeth · 20/09/2018 21:32

I mean me too I did an ASA thing not I agree to the sex negative rights stuff.

Ereshkigal · 20/09/2018 21:31

The Otley Run is a famous university pub crawl in Leeds.

BiologyMatters · 20/09/2018 21:31

How fucking disappointing that a thread about sexism (against women!!!) has been very effectively derailed by a TRA. Not everything has to be all about trans issues all the fucking time!

Movablefeast · 20/09/2018 21:30

This as is just a classic example of misogyny and how men and women think differently, to men it’s just amusing and funny and if women have a problem it’s because we must be repressed or someone is “slut-shaming” us. It is just incredible that in the 21st century so many ad agencies can be so absolutely clueless as to call this thing a “good idea”, manufacture it and distribute it.

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