This is wrong right?

"I have friends in her classes/on her course that feel unsafe"

Did they think she was going to attack them?

Like that transwoman prisoner who was convicted of rape, housed in teh women's prison, and sexually assaulted 4 fellow inmates?

That sort of unsafe feeling, you mean?

Haha. I proper love the sound of your kid, Rufus.

They might get a junior job in the Equalities Office of a local authority. Or, and I know this happens, a tick box diversity job in a vast corporation.

feminist

i was sat with my hand behind my head, sleeveless top and hadnt shaved my pits

Ds2 said ' you need to shave mummy'

And i thought 'excellent...a feminism/ sexism lesson opportunity here'

And i said 'well daddy doesnt shave'

Ds2: well i think he should

Me: men don't have to shave.....

And before i could even finish my sentence he said

'Well, i think you are being a bit sexist there mummy'

Epic backfire

"reinforced the dangerous stereotype that trans women are not women"

Please define "woman" in a non circular way.

Thanks

"gender non-conforming people are the ones at danger"

Like feminists and lesbians you mean? Non compliance / resistance against male supremacy and female homosexuality are by absoute definition outside of feminine gender role.

lol

Because, as I said, it is 2018 and science has moved on from such binary ideas of gender (yes, science. look it up).

Now we’re talking! Okidoki, let’s talk science. Please?

But first are we talking sex or gender? I’m talking sex.

My position is that sex is Male or female and that humans can’t change sex. If I’m wrong, then I beg you to explain in your own words how.

(No YouTube videos or links to that sodding nature OPED. You explain in your own words if you please. With the science and all.)

God your poor parents have wasted a lot of money on what seems like a very weak education :(

Every building across campus has standard toilets, split by sex, with multiple cubicles. Every building also has purpose built individual toilets, which are full accessible and gender neutral. This is to ensure that all students are able to go to the toilet whenever they need. This is not a co-opting of disabled toilets, as these have been purpose built. There are plenty of them, and I have never seen a queue of more than one person for one (in the newer buildings, there are groups of 5 or 6 of these individual toilets, and so there's always space). This has not only ensured that trans and non-binary students feel safe going to the toilet, knowing that they won't face abuse for "being in the wrong toilet", but has actually also led to more accessible toilets being built, so has been beneficial for disabled students.

It's irrelevent whether you ever saw queues. If I had any degree of incontinence and found a 'non-binary' person in a disabled loo ahead of me I would be extremely pissed off. My friend has a stoma which every so often misfires and leaks faeces all over her clothes. Should she have to stand outside waiting while someone who doesn't need to use that loo occupies it? I don't buy that trans people are at greater risk of assault and if the loos were all being purpose built why not just build separate unisex loos which don't then impact disabled people

Because even if there are more than enough loos, you are engendering a cultural shift whereby disabled loos are suddenly open to anyone. A trans woman who has spent 3 years at your university using the disabled loo is then going to use one elsewhere, because they suddenly feel entitled to. Disabled people had to campaign long and hard to have the facilities they do and if they are suddenly frequently in use, it will have an impact on how much certain individuals feel comfortable ever leaving the house.

Rufus How did you handle that one?

Note to self: check university dictionaries and see if they have a completely different definition of the words ‘oppression’ and ‘misogyny’ to the stand issue ones the rest of us are using.

Oppression and social exclusion are not interchangeable terms.

Only people with gynaecological systems (working or not) can be subjected to misogyny.

Of course transpeople deserve to live with dignity and be fully participant in society - but that won’t be achieved by lumping completely different issues into one (hand)bag or coopting words in a manner that renders them meaningless.

Degrees in rudness would be more apt

No need to be so rude

"Moved on from" is an interesting way to say "I failed that course".

feminist

And when my 12 year old boy told me i was being sexist

Your problem was that the University/Students' Union has a definition of a woman that isn't "person with vagina". Because, as I said, it is 2018 and science has moved on from such binary ideas of gender (yes, science. look it up).

Can you explain in a nutshell how you think babies are made please? I'm pretty sure the way they have made hasn't changed because it's now 2018, but I could be wrong.

I don't have 'binary' ideas of gender. I have no ideas about gender because gender is a load of old bollocks put onto girls and boys from birth to keep them in their place. And is reinforced by trans activism.

Next time, think about how your words have impact.

This reminds me of my toddler trying to tell me off for not making the moon come out in the daytime or whatever. Earnest yet clueless.

Do they issue degrees in Flailing Outrage

God i hope so...

Do they issue degrees in Flailing Outrage?

Based on the lack of intellect shown in the post by an alleged graduate of SussexUni, I now have two reasons not to send my children there.

Universities are not a crèche for the emotionally fragile

They really should hand out fresher’s packs containing that. Perhaps on a nice mug? Everyone likes a nice brew.

Along with biology textbooks, maybe.

So these sessions are open to anyone who identifies as a woman (cis women, trans women, and any non-binary people who feel that they are a part of this group (afab (assigned female at birth)/femme/others).

So they are open to anyone who wants to satly they are a woman or 'non-binary'. So that is literally anyone, of any sex?

So it's not a woman's group is it? It's just a group for anyone?

Also, I like how you have come onto this thread and gone 'yeah yeah, obvs I think this ad campaign is awful, objectifying womenblah blah blah blah, sexual harrassment yada yada yada, disappointed in my co-workers etc etc... Now can we get onto talking about how trans people are the most oppressed people on the planet please'.

the transphobia is unacceptable

I mean really

I’m pretty sure Kathleen Stock has never used the term “man in a dress”. In fact, I have heard her speak, and she explicitly and convincingly affirmed her support of trans rights. If students can’t cope with debate in a Philosophy department, of all places, or deal with hearing the biological fact that humans can’t change sex, they should stay in the safe space of their childhood bedroom in their parents’ suburban semi. Universities are not a crèche for the emotionally fragile, they are places for critical thinking and academic rigour.