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Mother's response to Penny Morduant's urgent inquiry into ROGD -

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ToeToToe · 17/09/2018 22:23

Penny Morduant has ordered an investigation into the 4000% increase in teenage girls seeking gender treatment.

A mother tweeted a response:

"My baby's caught up in that number. As parents we resisted permanent changes and medical paths and opted for no rushed decisions, therapy and to ride puberty out. #watchfulwaiting #rogd"

And, dear god, the pile on she's had from certain twitter TAs. This is the social pressure to transition - being applied to both parents and children.

Some of the replies:

"The changes your child will experience in puberty are permanent. Blockers are only there to bide time. I hope your kid survives your abuse and doesn't off themselves, they deserve better. But when they stop talking to you, you'll deserve it."

"I really hope your kid doesn’t commit suicide as a teenager. I hope they cut you out of their life and bloom into an amazing adult."

"You’re the problem here. Your kid will hate you if they don’t commit Suicide first."

"Because your bigotry about being trans is far more important than your child's wellbeing and happiness. How dare you call your child ' your baby' when you are denying their agency and true self. How about supporting, instead of controlling your child?"

This last one is what gc parents and feminists have been warning about all along, surely? - that this is a form of grooming - parents are accused of "controlling" their child, of "denying agency"?! I thought it was pretty well-established in law and safeguarding that a child does not have the maturity required to make such a decision that could have such a serious impact on the rest of their adult life.

Where has this narrative come from? Why the pressure - aggressive, threatening pressure - for instant positive affirmation of pre-pubescent/pubescent children? - social transition, puberty blockers - an almost inevitable gateway to sex hormones and surgery. A life-long dependence on drugs that we have little knowledge of the long-term affects of, and those side-effects we do know of, are not good.

Honestly, I really hope this investigation blows this stuff wide open.

twitter.com/NAutonomes/status/1041488795835793408 Whole thread here.

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mssilversprings · 17/09/2018 23:00

I have a colleague whose child had a history of MH issues including self harm, eating disorders and selective mutism. She swears that Tumblr and Twitter (over a six week period) contributed to her daughter now transitioning into a 'gay man'. Said daughter is obsessed with niche accounts telling her that she is 'not alone'. Tragically, she is alone IRL as cannot, unsurprisingly, find any sort of kinship - heartbreaking
Daughter also lied, repeatedly, to doctors in order to support her transition. She alleged my colleague forced upon her feminine stereotypes - nothing could be further from the truth. Colleague was never given the opportunity to respond to this. They no longer have a relationship and, tragically, my colleague no longer has a daughter. The child is fond of randomly texting Mother that she only has a life expectancy of 35 - that old chestnut 🙄 Now if that isn't fetishising - I don't know what is 😕

ScipioAfricanus · 17/09/2018 22:49

It is horrendous to see people using the suicide threat. As if it’s not bad enough having your own teenager saying ‘If I can’t do X I’ll kill myself’, now a parent gets all the (physically or mentally) teenage supporters saying it too. Repellant.

AngryAttackKittens · 17/09/2018 22:48

Lupron, the drug so "harmless" that a significant percentage of patients refuse to take the full course recommended because of horrible side effects and that there's a class action lawsuit filed about.

VickyEadie · 17/09/2018 22:45

Stuffing drugs into physically healthy kids, eh?

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 17/09/2018 22:43

I am very concerned that there will be many important places that this inquiry just won't be allowed to go.

archery2 · 17/09/2018 22:38

I saw that thread too, where commenters suggested that puberty blockers were the 'watchful waiting' approach. But host children who go on puberty blockers go on to have hormones too - so it hardly creates a blank canvas for the child to consider options, rather it's a canvas ready-primed for transition.

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ToeToToe · 17/09/2018 22:36

I might add, the mother is getting supportive responses from GC feminists as well - and she is clearly fairly knowledgeable and no shrinking violet - but my god, some of the things being said to her.

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Theswaggyotter · 17/09/2018 22:36

Poor woman, that twitter stuff is awful. What kind of people try to encourage medical experiments on confused children?? Thank goodness for the strength of love parents have for their children to help them resist the pressure but what a position to find yourself in

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ToeToToe · 17/09/2018 22:34

[https://twitter.com/radfemfatale/status/1039534483098152961]]

Excellent thread on Lupron, which has been included in the responses.

Lupron's so far from a 'safe' way to pause puberty as to be ridiculous.

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Bowlofbabelfish · 17/09/2018 22:34

Awful.

Parental alienation
Pushing drugs with irreversible, lifelong, multi systemic effects on children, off label, with no prior research, no informed consent and no oversight.
Medicalisation of children and demedicalisation of adults.
Weaponising suicide threats.

Truly awful. That poor parent. I hope they realise they are doing the right thing.

I was amazed to see the investigation be launched. I thought they’d just wave it through...

VickyEadie · 17/09/2018 22:29

I see some of those people are still insisting that puberty blockers don't have permanent effects, whereas we know well that a boy given them is unlikely to have proper male genitals if he decides to change his mind.

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