Women on the left are responsible for austerity

I dunno about cockroaches but my cat's looking pretty tasty right about now. Bludgeoning your pet to death with a can of baked beans is hunting right? This Apocalypse is gonna be sweet.

No point taking them head on but we have bypassed them, the bus Posie was thrown under has backed off, we have as much media power and clout as the women doing that, and when they try to push us to being a labour left tool we can juts bypass that too. Is what happens when women stand together, left are terrified of it.

I once saw a video in which someone was eating dried wasps as a snack.

If we're that desperate post-glorious revolution I think I might try chewing on my shoes instead.

Thanks for the link, lisa

Re your squirrel situation Lisa, you should ask Norman Tebbit he wrote a roadkill cook book

Gals, roaches are the future, I thought we had established that early on in this thread ? (Angry did, actually).

www.rovepestcontrol.com/if-you-cant-beat-em-eat-em-5-delicious-cockroach-recipes/

That's my "problem"/s - I see wrong and I call it out - and get shot down often - people don't like/don't know how to handle their blind spot being revealed - and instead of saying thank you and let's see what I can do to rectify it, they attack, downplay, lie - all to protect their "reputation".

We are a mighty force for good on here as I imagine many of us have had to self-reflect in the face of warranted and/or gratuitous criticism. I learnt to put my ego aside and I observe that in others on here. I certainly had to work hard to learn what I was responsible for and what not. I hate the "say one thing and do another".......the hypocrisy of that stance and the unwillingness to take the log out of one's eye ......

If you ever get an opportunity to be at a Q n A session with a prospective politician or party candidate and you are at a loss as to what to ask, but want to engage and provoke debate ask

"what do you see as your politicial weaknesses / blind spots and how do you think you could improve on them?"

Its a revealling question and one that if you try and dodge or are insincere about or give a stock answer its very obvious.

You don't need to get an answer to it either - the point is to get the person and everyone else in the room thinking about the question...

'Breaking the glass' of the current political forces is all about making people to start to think again.

I wrote about it at the time idgeofreason.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/karen-ingala-smith/
TYhat is the tweets of said political figure. Who while working in domestic abuse during eight years of austerity never noticed equality being rolled back. Thats not a cause for no platforming THAT is who decides the platform. Same with Ruth.,

Dear god, this is mental. I don’t understand a word of it. Didn’t know I was thick until ... ooh 5 minutes ago.

Re your squirrel situation Lisa, you should ask Norman Tebbit he wrote a roadkill cook book*. Come the revolution/total system collapse can he come and live in our commune? We will need to reproduce with someone after all....

I haven't managed to forage any gin thinking of heading out in a bit. Stealing is the same as foraging right?

*actually true

[Feminist leftist politician] on the ONLY occasion a politician mentioned the way austerity impacted mothers, demanded it didnt happen again cos it made her feel excluded cos she wasnt a mother

And you guys moaned the other discussions on this thread were Through the Looking Glass on acid stuff.

I literally don't have a clue what this thread is about!

I dont know any woman in WPUK who signed up to preventing discussion of austerity and putting women and kids at risk but thats what happens when the Labour left do this. Hence risk of fascism. Its always covert, its narcissistic abuse and it needs to be made explicit, brought out and described, an that will always get people attacking you
Rather people attacked me than this happened without anyone noticing

That right there is what I call brave and stunning. Standing up for what you know is right, even though you know you are going to get abused for it, Lisa you are a courageous woman indeed, and you have my thanks for standing up for working class women, their voices desperately need to be heard.

Thanks for all your posts on this Lisa you’ve put into words things I’ve instinctively felt and been unable to articulate.

I dont know any woman in WPUK who signed up to preventing discussion of austerity and putting women and kids at risk but thats what happens when the Labour left do this. Hence risk of fascism. Its always covert, its narcissistic abuse and it needs to be made explicit, brought out and described, an that will always get people attacking you. Rather people attacked me than this happened without anyone noticing.

Ruth, Kristina etc will be viewing this as a way to reinforce Labour left positoiun and McDonnell is gearing up for leadership and they will do to WPUK what they do with everything they touch. Steal it and distort it and what they did to Posie was about that, I doubt very much the woman who wrote the statement even understood that was what they were doing, but Ruth did and so did the elite women at the heart and I feel really terrible because WPUK have done some amazing stuff and this needed to be called out because its covert abuse. But it seriously could have got Posie or her kids seriously hurt and if we hadnt said thats not acceptable it would have happened to someone else. I wish I was overstating the threat that women face because of this but am not. I have security arrangements, I have a gym opposite my house who keeps his cctv on my house at my request, I have to discuss risk with my ex all the time and that was not ok.

The blatant lying used to make me enraged, but I've learned that pointing at the lie and going "hmm" can be enlightening for others.

That's my "problem"/s - I see wrong and I call it out - and get shot down often - people don't like/don't know how to handle their blind spot being revealed - and instead of saying thank you and let's see what I can do to rectify it, they attack, downplay, lie - all to protect their "reputation".

We are a mighty force for good on here as I imagine many of us have had to self-reflect in the face of warranted and/or gratuitous criticism. I learnt to put my ego aside and I observe that in others on here. I certainly had to work hard to learn what I was responsible for and what not. I hate the "say one thing and do another".......the hypocrisy of that stance and the unwillingness to take the log out of one's eye ......

Can't help with the squirrel, unfortunately - beyond my pay grade -good practice for when the apocalypse hits .... maybe it can be your new Instabrand ;)

Squirrel Girl
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Species Human mutate
Abilities: Superhuman agility, senses, and strength, Prehensile tail, Razor-sharp claws, Retractable knuckle spikes, Ability to communicate with squirrels
Her ability to communicate with squirrels is surprisingly effective and has allowed her to defeat major supervillains.

No one wants to be the whistleblower...

Is what happens when you challenge power. You see it. You cant see it till you challenge it. And when you challenge a power structure you can see is a problem, it isnt a problem for others nad it threatens their shit so they attack you. Its the same with political cultures, domestic abuse, anything.

Why do people say they will meet/have met with WPUK but we never find out what was said at these meetings? Am I being adequately represented?

Yes my concern as well

Ah that makes sense Lisa - I suggested to the aforesaid person that her support and defence of Aimee Challenor was misplaced. I got a strong push back and dismissal of my concerns. The same happened when I questioned the unconditional support of Jess Philips despite her support of Stonewall's refuge report that overrode women's concerns.

I was surprised. So my take was a certain person didn't seem to be on women's side or prepared to stand up for them if it meant challenging existing networks. Again why is constructive feedback so problematic? The sisterhood is subsumed to the identity politics at play. Why aren't networks robust enough to stand some criticism - it all gets lost in the good v bad, left v right instead of women standing up for other women, irrespective of their politics. Seems like that takes maturity that is in short supply in some women with the microphone/leadership roles.

Turns out the skin just pops off like a rabbit, I definitely think a pate will work. I'll salt some slugs to put in the blender with it.

LOL OP. It's exceptionally disingenuous to conclude from 'control over our bodies is a basic human right' that I don't support that very thing.

At least you admit that disagreement with your proposal wrong think makes the personal accusation acceptable in your eyes. That's startlingly honest! And just startling.

Have deregged and reregged today, BTW. I am Dragoncake. Off to weave beads into my bison's mane and stalk squirrels now.

It does sound a bit like making overpopulation uniquely women's problem to sort out. How about promoting vasectomy? Control over our own bodies and reproductive systems is a basic human right. Not a tool to make us further responsible for solving all the world's problems.

lisamuggeridge wrote: I still dont know what to do with the dead squirrel I foraged. caroty can you help? Do I skin it like a rabbit and treat it like conejo et salsa?

I'm very far from an expert and not the person to whom you addressed your enquiry....However...

Apparently, this is a decent time of year for making squirrel pate - post-hibernation is bad as there isn't enough fat to give decent flavour.

As a hint for the skin - in the Museum of Childhood in Bethnal Green is a Koala Bear in a Teddy Bear style. The Koala is made out of kangaroo skin. So, maybe a post-apocalyptic business opportunity in making a New World range of Steiff bears from squirrel pelt?