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Survey: Scottish Women and Girls UK Self-Exclusion

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silentcrow · 17/09/2018 17:00

UK Women's Self-Exclusion Survey www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/G6ZGZC9

Came across this on my local feminist network FB page this morning (am not in Scotland, but still) regarding whether would or already do, remove themselves from places based on "gender self-id". You may wish to complete it also.

I'm afraid I was rather cross in my answers. I may have used all-caps in places. Grin

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ThomasRichard · 19/09/2018 11:50

@leyat the link says that due to the high volume of responses, this survey is currently closed.

leyat · 19/09/2018 11:40

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littlbrowndog · 17/09/2018 22:50

Done it ta silent

silentcrow · 17/09/2018 22:16

@leyat no worries - all sorted. Will you let us know about the results? I appreciate ten free responses per person is a lot to go through, though!

littlbrowndog - hope this works www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/G6ZGZC9

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littlbrowndog · 17/09/2018 21:09

Smh. Can u share link again I can’t get link

leyat · 17/09/2018 20:56

@silentcrow just checking you saw my post a couple posts above, yes it is absolutely fine, please do share!

bd67th · 17/09/2018 20:53

Ok, I apologise, I've jumped to an invalid conclusion there. Female people who think TWAW would be entitled to fill it anyway, amirite? It would only be male-bodied people who shouldn't?

Ideally, we'd stop female people on the street to survey them. Any online survey will be prone to selection bias.

silentcrow · 17/09/2018 20:35

Sure? It was posted to my local group with nothing much other that "here's a survey you might want to do", so I had no idea of the WoM thing.

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Cascade220 · 17/09/2018 20:22

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leyat · 17/09/2018 20:20

No need to delete the thread, it is correct that we were initially aiming to have our survey sent out via women's groups, including organisations like Engender Scotland (they have not yet said if they will share it with their members, but we have asked if they will) and we are hoping WEP will too, and of course word of mouth. But we realised that it would actually be better to post more publicly, even though it might get gamed, we really do just want the best chance of getting a broad range of responses from women and since we don't yet have our website up (we are planning on doing that when we launch our proposals pack) posting on public forums was the next best thing.

So we're sorry for any confusion, please just share freely, and again, we very much appreciate your time in filling the survey out.

Cascade220 · 17/09/2018 20:01

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BlardyBlar · 17/09/2018 20:00

Done! I also used all capitals. The word “never” seemed inadequate otherwise.

bd67th · 17/09/2018 19:58

Didn't the survey come with a request not to share on MN?

SMH.

Sorry, I should expand my acronyms. That's the highly shortened form of "yes, I can see why the survey would come with a plea not to post it in a place where trans activists are likely to patrol, because we know from experience that TAs love ballot-stuffing, e.g. Aimee Challenor's GRA response form with the answers already prefilled". OP, I suggest you report your own post, and leyat, I suggest you change the url if you can.

SwiftNC · 17/09/2018 19:54

It was inevitable it would get out, just a question of how long before that happened.

bd67th · 17/09/2018 19:49

Didn't the survey come with a request not to share on MN?

SMH.

averylongtimeago · 17/09/2018 19:36

Yes it did. Share by word of mouth iirc

Cascade220 · 17/09/2018 18:29

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user1468233640 · 17/09/2018 18:26

Delurking to comment, Leyay. I seem to have lost my own username.

I've just filled this in too - and my BP is up there with everyone elses but it was good to have an honest rant!

Hope you don't mind me asking a couple of questions, please?

  1. How are you going to know if all the answers are coming from actual women? Because the minute this is picked up, the (redacted) will be all over it like a rash.
  1. I appreciate you are after UK wide responses but I'd have liked a chance to state which country (Scotland) I'm from. Might have made it easier to argue against this here?
Prestonsflowers · 17/09/2018 18:13

I’ve just done the survey and I think I need a strong drink now, and for my blood pressure to come back down

Labradoodliedoodoo · 17/09/2018 17:56

Says clos,..?

terryleather · 17/09/2018 17:51

Bumping and to say it doesn't take long to fill in!

VickyEadie · 17/09/2018 17:37

Bump.

silentcrow · 17/09/2018 17:29

Grand. Cheers for clarifying, leyat - I can pm you with where I found it if you're looking to measure the reach?

And I apologise for my very ranty capitals (not really).

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LangCleg · 17/09/2018 17:21

Done.

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