Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Any Irish feeling a bit isolated...

211 replies

SuperStylin · 16/09/2018 21:22

...for being critical of the gender critical?

The referendum was such a high but the repeal groups I was part of have gone on to become equality groups (I have no issue with equality but the issues they are fighting for seem in almost every case to be to the detriment of women)
It’s gone from such a high to such a low as it’s overwhelming how quickly people will dismiss you as transphobic for airing a genuine concern.

Wondered is there anyone in a similar situation or if you can point me in the direction of likeminded groups?

OP posts:
dinosaurkisses · 17/09/2018 07:39

Yup!

Twitter is a depressing chess pit of Irish wokeness at the moment. I’m getting a bit pissed off at people almost automatically taking whatever side the UK feminists oppose as if it’s a badge of Irish nationalism.

I follow the Alliance For Choice on Facebook and they shared an article from some London Irish group about how trans voices shouldn’t be excluded from the abortion debate Hmm. I replied underneath it saying there was a reason that the successful campaign chose to run with “Trust Women” rather than “Trust People With Uteruses” and that this is still a fight that needs to be won in NI without alienating people. I got the usual woke reply from the people that run the page, but more people “liked” my comment than there’s, so I have hope that more GC people are out there, they’re just staying under the radar.

ludog · 17/09/2018 07:28

There was a thread on boards.ie last week titled "the worrying rise of terfism in the UK" (LGBT board). Some GC voices speaking into the echo chamber but in the main it was all TWAW. I think there's very little awareness of this here yet really despite us having self ID. That went through totally under the radar so most people are unaware of it. If you do try to challenge it online there is a strong backlash from the handmaidens who have totally swallowed the party line.

JustAnotherSpartacus · 17/09/2018 00:25

Hi OP, I am Irish. I will send you a PM when I get a chance. There are some GC Irish people on twitter if you are on there?

pachyderm · 16/09/2018 23:43

I wouldn't think politics.ie is gender critical- there's very little grasp of the issues there outside the ignorant "PC gone mad" sort. Extremely male dominated; you'll rarely see any feminist perspective. Haven't checked out the boards.ie thread.

It's worth noting there's a big American influence in Ireland- certain individuals in various social movements have a powerful influence, which is easy in such a small country. Much uncritical drinking of identity politics Kool Aid seems to have happened, and god knows what's going on in academiaSad

NorasBarnacle · 16/09/2018 23:18

I saw a local Together For Yes Facebook group pile on a contributor who voiced concern about the attempt to 'be inclusive' in the language that will be used in the forthcoming abortion legislation (there was an attempt to have the legislation talk about 'people' who need abortions in case it was offensive to transmen.) How dare she suggest that only women need abortions!
For some reason, a lot of the legal academics seem very woke (De Londres, Enright and many others who were active in 'repeal' movement. It is depressing.)

The anti UK 'Terfs' letter of earlier this year was sickening and has been used by Irish TRAs to silence any discussion that (rarely) sprouts up. I do think the issues in Ireland are different, not so inflamed as in the UK, but the end results will be same, even if it takes a lot longer for most of us to notice.

Any of the Irish Mumsnet-type sites I am on do have GC women but are usually shouted down by the local handmaids, and I suspect most are actually lurking here (waves to the other Ex MagicMs Wink )
I will have to create new accounts on my Irish sites if I go public on being GC - I am recognizable and concerned about my job. Ireland is a very small country.

miri1985 · 16/09/2018 23:18

There was a huge peaktrans thread on boards.ie that was shut down for not being "fun".
www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057889167

Have also seen loads of critical threads on politics.ie

SunsetBeetch · 16/09/2018 23:02

I'm shocked at how nasty the Irish feminists and their woke bro cheerleaders are on twitter. I understand that one of them works for Twitter Support in their Dublin office?

The Irish GC feminists I've met on twitter seem to feel the same as you.

You could perhaps follow Graham Linehan @glinner and see who he follows and retweets?

redshoeblueshoe · 16/09/2018 22:48

You could ask Maryz except she's been banned

SuperStylin · 16/09/2018 22:37

Borg like is right! Even on non feminist Facebook groups it’s becoming increasingly unpopular to speak up against gender neutral bathrooms, prison issues etc. Trans suicide rates is what’s generally thrown back in response to anything.
Yet the UK, particularly MN, seem to have so many more GCF

OP posts:
pachyderm · 16/09/2018 22:18

We exist. Just tend to be wary given the abuse, doxxing and threats to employment heaped on anyone who veers from the borglike script of what declares itself "Irish feminism". Some very nasty people out there.

Clinicalwaste · 16/09/2018 21:36

There seem to be some GCF on twitter OP. I agree not many though for some strange reason.

Swipe left for the next trending thread