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frogintheTyne · 15/09/2018 23:39

Where is the bewilderness?

I miss her!

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SophoclesTheFox · 16/09/2018 12:07

fucking hell, maryz. That is appalling.

I go between accepting that I have to contort my language and police my tone and my words as being the price I have to pay to get to talk at all. Discretion being the better part of valour and all.

But then I see things like your banning and I think, fuck that for a game of soldiers, the controlling of the language leads to the controlling of people's thoughts, leads to controlling of the narrative, and all counter views are made to disappear, and the inconvenient women who hold them disappear.

This is not OK. This is not proportionate or even handed or fair.

R0wantrees · 16/09/2018 12:06

June 2018 Article in The Times by David Aaronvitch (chairman of Index on Censorship, the free speech advocacy organisation)
(extracts)
"And thus, in easy, treacherous steps dissent is deemed accessory to murder. It is an utterly pernicious logic. But thus too, in a dazzling paradox, the accusation of “hate speech” proves itself to be sometimes a form of hate speech. It is being deployed to intimidate and to shut people up"

concludes:
"This freedom boat, I’ve realised over the past half decade, is the same boat for all of us, even if we sit in different parts. Sink it, and we’re all drowned. There’s no “but” after “open debate”.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/assaults-on-free-speech-are-led-by-the-left-l2r8t9t9p

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3277408-David-Aaronovitch-comment-in-Times

FunkyBoldRibenas · 16/09/2018 12:05

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nopeni · 16/09/2018 11:57

What the hell? What is going wrong with the moderators?

CrackpotsArePots · 16/09/2018 11:56

Damn autocorrect

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 16/09/2018 11:54

I'm sorry I just missed Dittany. It sounds as if she'd have been well worth knowing.

CrackpotsArePots · 16/09/2018 11:54

MaryZoe. I was on that thread; banned for a week. Massive inconsistency there x

R0wantrees · 16/09/2018 11:52

18 years and despite 'the mod on duty agreeing that I didn't actually break any guidelines and despite being here since the dawn of time with not a single suspension, no warnings, no "strikes",' banned?

This is appalling.

I have learned so so much from the wisdom of women on this board.

It is a travesty that in the last few months so many have been forced to leave.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 16/09/2018 11:50

I'm Maryz. I've been here under the same name for almost 18 years.

And when you get banned, we know things are seriously fucked up.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 16/09/2018 11:48

Ill be honest

At times its like a very scary horror movie on here

People just disappear

And when you find out why they disappeared its usually for a complete non reason

AngryAttackKittens · 16/09/2018 11:45

Deleting, not eating! But yes, talking about breakfast being offensive to the goady fuckers whose thread isn't generating the delicious quote for Twitter they were hoping for was a rather eye-rolling moment. If 99% of commenters responding think someone is not in good faith we're usually correct.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 16/09/2018 11:45

Oh hey mayrz

I thought it was you

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 16/09/2018 11:44

despite the mod on duty agreeing that I didn't actually break any guidelines and despite being here since the dawn of time with not a single suspension, no warnings, no "strikes".

You weren't thinking the wrong things again, were you?

OhWellItWasNiceKnowingYouAll · 16/09/2018 11:44

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 16/09/2018 11:44
Grin

Well talk of avocados...

Apparently there were some good recipes!!

Love avocado on toast...that le pain quoitent one is the best recipe

OhWellItWasNiceKnowingYouAll · 16/09/2018 11:43

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EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 16/09/2018 11:42

But deleting 'yawn' 'bless' and avocados!!!

Who the fuck is deleting avocados?????

OhWellItWasNiceKnowingYouAll · 16/09/2018 11:41

Why would they R0wan?

I annoyed one of the mods, they banned me. Their site, their rules, they can do as they like. I'm only saying it so people know that posters are disappearing not because they don't care about the argument, but because they aren't allowed to be here.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 16/09/2018 11:41

Some of you may guess who I was/am grin

No im rubbish at guessing Sad

Bang out of order what happened to you

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 16/09/2018 11:40

Oh and the strikes

Dont get me started on the strikes and the new guidelines

I absolutely appreciate that guidelines change

But it seems like FWR are being held to an incredibly high standard...much higher than the rest of the site

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 16/09/2018 11:39

Please, anyone who is in touch with her, tell her from me she needs to come back, if she is at all able. It's no good talking if people can't hear.

Says the woman who talked me about of the first response I had in mind Grin

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 16/09/2018 11:38

And hopefully ive managed a name change

Respect thebewilderness

OhWellItWasNiceKnowingYouAll · 16/09/2018 11:37

I have no intention of trying to come back by the way. I don't want to be part of a site that treats supporters as this one does.

R0wantrees · 16/09/2018 11:37

Just letting you know that, like bewilderness, I was permanently banned after the Stella Cressy thread, despite the mod on duty agreeing that I didn't actually break any guidelines and despite being here since the dawn of time with not a single suspension, no warnings, no "strikes".

Also no right of reply, no discussion by email, just bang, gone.

This must be looked into surely?

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 16/09/2018 11:37

Its a dreadful shame that women are being forced off the boards

Treading on eggshells

Fuckwits misquoting people on twitter

Lying about things that are easily provable...and then the twonks that believe them without checking for themselves!!!

And honestly i like that mumsnet isn't afraid to host the debate and the vast vast majority of the mods seem lovely and make very difficult calls

But deleting 'yawn' 'bless' and avocados!!!

What would help no end is more informative deletion messages