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Cambridge by-election

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WarmWishes · 14/09/2018 08:08

I'm not from Cambridge but have been interested in the results of yesterday's by-election. It came about due to Ann Sinnott's resignation.

Anyway, you may remember that her vacant seat came about, in part by the actions of the Lib Dem candidate Sarah Brown who is named in Johnny Best's 'coming out' as gender critical article and is also famous for extending an invitation to suck her formaldehyde balls. Ann in her own words here blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/ive-quit-the-labour-party-because-it-has-betrayed-women/. After Ann resigned Sarah Brown stood and canvased for Ann's empty seat.

Anyway, to cut a long story short labour won the seat last night. Sarah is delighted she lost, according to her twitter. Well she is delighted with the results, the ones where she lost. The Labour vote has decreased since May, suggesting that the new candidate is less popular than the strong and principled Ann, but clearly preferable to the Cambridge green and libdem alternatives.

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WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 16/09/2018 12:37

Thanks for the additional info buzz and pencils

The bit about the ipad reminded me of something Brown said on twitter years ago that annoyed the shit out of me. It was something along the lines of.

"I'm getting used to this new ipad and I can't decide if I'm more of a portrait girl or a landscape girl"

#ThingsAnActualWomenWouldNeverSay

Pass the sickbag . What an AGP.

PencilsInSpace · 15/09/2018 21:27

That's useful background.

I'm very relieved about this result even though I live nowhere near Cambridge. This is what Brown did in 2010 at Brown's first ever council meeting, having been sent as a substitute for another cllr Hmm

democracy.cambridge.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=159&MId=376

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BettyDuMonde · 15/09/2018 19:34

Great background. Thanks!

WarmWishes · 15/09/2018 19:02

Thanks for your post Father. Really interesting. I've been following the campaign via twitter accounts because I'm sad like that but am really interested in local politics, even in areas not local to me. Sarah does strike me as extremely aggressive in her communication style and not afraid to smear. If she was my local councillor i would be rather intimated about contacting her. Your comments on the absent students are interesting too.

I hope your current councillor is decent, listens and gets things done.

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Annandale · 15/09/2018 18:48

Great post FatherBC.

FatherBuzzCagney · 15/09/2018 18:15

I'm a resident of the ward in question, and delighted by the result. If anyone is interested, this is what I think happened. If not, ignore!

Whatever Sarah Brown is saying now, the Lib Dems seemed to think they would win this, and they are not happy with the result. Brown will doubtless be back to contest the next election in the ward next May (no-one else in the Local Lib Dems seems to have a shot at standing as a candidate in the ward). The Lib Dems ran a nasty campaign insinuating that Ann Sinnott and the rest of the Labour Party are bigots (this from the party led by Tim Farron until not long ago), tried to take credit for a local road safety initiative that Labour had actually pushed through, and tried to sell Brown as someone who had been a great councillor in the past. Because Sinnott was handing out WPUK leaflets, the LD LGBTQ+ twitter account was spreading a load of (formaldehyde-pickled) bollocks about transphobic hate literature flooding the ward in the run-up to the election. They also tried to pitch this as an election about Brexit (the ward voted Remain by over 80% in 2016). None of that did any good.

They did however, cut the Labour majority significantly, and are trying to spin this as some kind of turning of the tide towards them. This is almost certainly wrong. As some people have pointed out, one very likely reason that the Labour and Green vote went down and the Lib Dem vote went up was that the election was held in the university vacation. There are a lot of Cambridge University and ARU students in the ward, and it's likely that a lot of those who bother to vote will be voting Labour or Green. Brown picked up more votes this time, so some people have switched, but the number of missing Labour and Green votes this week compared with the vote in May is much greater than this couple of hundred extra votes. The Lib Dems won't be so lucky next time round, since council elections are normally held in term.

I had quite a lot of firsthand experience of both Sinnott and Brown as councillors and they were both pretty useless at engaging with residents and issues in the ward. I don't know anyone in the ward who found Sinnott to be remotely engaged or receptive as a councillor. At area committees (when residents turn up to raise issues in an open forum), Sinnott was prone to telling people concerned about things like road safety that these were first world problems and they shouldn't be complaining because lots of women have to live with domestic violence. I don't know any ward resident who ever got a substantive reply to an email they sent her about any council business. It's really not the case that Labour has lost votes because a much-loved councillor has stepped down. She has been an excellent campaigner for women's rights inside and outside the council, and I greatly respect her for that, but she wasn't at all suited to being a councillor dealing with residents' issues.

Sarah Brown was just as disengaged, it always seemed to me, and seemed to spend almost all of any meeting I was at glued to her ipad, rather than engaging with the tedious business of local democracy. I don't know of anyone who looks back fondly to the golden era of having Brown as a councillor, whatever the Lib dems are trying to claim. That's particularly true for anyone who has ever encountered Brown on social media - she's very aggressive, and not someone who strikes you as able to engage with any interest or sensitivity in local problems. (This is completely different from her partner Zoe O'Connell who seems to be a good ward councillor.)

So, I really don't think the election and its result was about the bigger issues, however much it looked as if it could be. Brown probably wanted to make it all about horrid Labour transphobes, but I doubt that did very well on the doorstep (that aspect of the campaign seemed to get toned down quite quickly). In the end, the permament residents round here are more likely to vote on the basis of things like residents' parking than whether they buy into Brown's hyper-aggressive brand of TRA.

KatVonGulag · 15/09/2018 16:53

Must admit to a chortle here.

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placemats · 15/09/2018 15:10

Plus the Conservatives did worse than the odious Brown.

This was an anti Brexit vote.

placemats · 15/09/2018 15:07

LibDem did well. Shock.

BettyDuMonde · 15/09/2018 14:51

Did you write that on, Rosaprimula?

All candidates and their agents have to view every spoiled ballot and agree that it’s spoiled before it can be counted as such. It’s a good opportunity to write things you really want to be sure they read.

‘Women don’t have penises’ would work well!

rosaprimula · 15/09/2018 14:47

was unable to vote for Labour so defaced my ballot paper - Labour have betrayed women and Sarah Brown is despicable

Ereshkigal · 14/09/2018 18:59

Well done Cambridge 👏👏👏

BettyDuMonde · 14/09/2018 18:47

I hope former Cllr Sinnott’s successor and the Cambridge Council Labour group will take notice of the shrinking majority and listen to what Ann has to say about the Equality Act and how it was illegally amended in Cambridge.

I’m sure Ann will be happy to provide some consultancy advise/training, both to ensure the Labour council is not in breech of the law moving forward, and because Ann actually gives a shit about women and children.

IveChangedMyNameForThis · 14/09/2018 17:51

Thanks to this farce I have just seen Sarah Brown on twitter being hugged by a man who TEACHES MY FUCKING CHILDREN. I am so, beyond angry at this.

I really am absolutely incandescent at this point at the rank misogyny throughout our society. This is vile.

HermioneWeasley · 14/09/2018 15:19

Hee hee. Off you fuck Sarah. Don’t let the door hit you on your ass on the way out.

WarmWishes · 14/09/2018 15:18

Yes or the ongoing national picture with labour in terms of anti semitism. Many people who vote in local elections are guided by national issues and know very little about their local candidates.

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flintyminty · 14/09/2018 15:01

The Labour vote has decreased since May, suggesting that the new candidate is less popular than the strong and principled Ann, but clearly preferable to the Cambridge green and libdem alternatives.

It's also possible that a lot of Labour women voters are no longer prepared to vote for a party that is throwing them under the bus.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 14/09/2018 14:39

BreakWindandFire

BreakWindandFire · 14/09/2018 14:10

That's interesting WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice. I first peak-transed about 15 years ago when I had contact with a transwoman through my work. An utterly horrible, hideous misogynist. Who boasted they wanted to become a customs officer in order to finger women.

I think for some transwomen there's a desire for abusive power over women.

shudder

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 14/09/2018 13:49

Sarah Brown thinks that strip searching people is a perk of being a police officer.
I say this, because years ago Sarah Brown was supportive of a campaign to let police officers perform strip searches upon the gender of prople they identify as. Yup. That is right. A police officer has the 'right' to perform strip searches. Back on planet normal, people performing strip searches do it reluctantly as a way of ensuring safety and that the law is upheld.

Disturbing creepy fucker. I'll never get past that.

doedoe90303811 · 14/09/2018 13:35

fyi Sarah held this seat in the past, and one of Sarah's polyamorous (of course) transgender partners, Zoe O'Connell has also stood for election here. Unsuccessfully. But now holds Trumpington ward. Also lost deposit twice in Maldon at general elections. 2015 performance particularly embarrassing coming fifth behind a very weak Independent candidate.

Zoe is up for election in May 2019, not clear between Tories and Labour about possible winner. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_City_Council_election,_2015

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 14/09/2018 13:18

Ann is exactly the kind of representative women need right now

We wouldn't be in this mess if there were more like her.

I'm so cross she was forced out

Beautifulday49 · 14/09/2018 09:02

I used to live in Cambridge and don't care for it much, but still I'm delighted that Sarah Brown isn't elected.

GulagMilkMonitor · 14/09/2018 08:59

Anyway, to cut a long story short labour won the seat last night. Sarah is delighted she lost, according to her twitter. Well she is delighted with the results, the ones where she lost

I’d like to complain about this comment.
I just laughed so hard, I woke my baby.

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