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Durham Philosophy Journal editor sacked for saying women don't have penises

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PlantsArePeopleToo · 14/09/2018 00:25

www.palatinate.org.uk/assistant-editor-of-durham-philosophy-journal-fired-for-transphobic-retweet/

Someone please tell me that this isn't true and is some kind of piss take. Or that there is more to the story or something.

The world really has gone mad.

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Melamin · 14/09/2018 16:26

The unspoken terror that keeps women quiet is frustrating.

GColdtimer · 14/09/2018 16:17

I work in academic publishing. We have a small closed woman's FB discussion group talking about sexism etc in academic publishing. I shared this with them along with the Goldsmith's shower of shite (including asking one women who should know how someone got to be listed as an author twice on the same paper) and the pressure on PLOS to take down an article on ROGD.

One woman liked my post. They have all seen it. Not word was posted from any of them. This is a closed group of senior women and this is an attack on women in their industry.

Anyone else getting pissed off with people not willing to make a stand. I'm with Posie.

FermatsTheorem · 14/09/2018 16:15

Biology class circa 2025:

"I am required to tell you by law that women can have penises and men can have vulvas, and you must not, whatever you do, engage in any sexual practice that is trans-exclusionary, but other than that any kink is up for grabs and you must embrace all of them in an equal opportunities way. Some people can get pregnant, and some people can get other people pregnant, and in order to prevent this you must be responsible with your contraception, but since I can't attach a name to which sort of person needs the condom and which sort of person can get pregnant without triggering someone's feelings (which is as bad as literal violence) I'm afraid you're very much on your own when it comes to working out how you will take responsibility for your own contraception...

"In the rest of this term's lessons we will be covering flat earth theories, intelligent design and young earth creationism, with a special project topic on 'how the moon landings were faked.'"

RomanyRoots · 14/09/2018 16:08

Women don't have penises though.
it's men that have penises, how the fuck will Biology teachers cope with this? Will they have to lie, the world has gone mad, just because of some weird fuckers.
I'm not saying trans are weird, just these stupid fuckers.
I have nothing against trans and support everyone's right to be who they want, but women don't have a penis, any idiot knows this.

Melamin · 14/09/2018 16:00

Total batshit madness.

The comments are good.

When do the NUS sort out their procedures with Jess Bradley? I thought it was supposed to be something like 4 weeks - they are dragging things out somewhat.

Beagadorsrock · 14/09/2018 15:55

I have come to the conclusion that some of these people aren't just stupid, aren't just a bit nutty, aren't just so open-minded their brains have fallen out. Some of them are actually evil. When you dismiss putting a rapist in a women's prison as "just one of those things" but call for the wrath of Khan to fall on a woman for wrongthink, you're not just being a bit stupid, you are indicating the depths of your sheer and utter hatred for women.

I totally agree.
I have no words for how shit all of this is.

CKoRn · 14/09/2018 14:32

What's sickening, and as one of the commenters on that article quite rightly pointed out is, what about all of the poor children being ABUSED by this movement? Particularly little girls?
You do realise that the HRT they go through causes irreversible sterility in women/girls, right? THIS IS ABUSE!
The whole thing is fucking sickening.

CrackpotsArePots · 14/09/2018 14:22

Thingybob

Excellent film. Very apposite - thanks for linking

PlantsArePeopleToo · 14/09/2018 13:48

So this is not a piss take then?

Jesus Christ...

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AbsintheFriends · 14/09/2018 11:09

Exactly AAK - surely philosophy IS argument. Testing ideas. Debating them.

They're going to dictate themselves out of a living if they're not careful. Enjoy ur erasure, philosophers.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 14/09/2018 10:09

The comments are excellent.
The majority are not buying this shit.

AngryAttackKittens · 14/09/2018 10:05

This case is particularly ironic in that the history of Western philosophy began with a bunch of philosophers arguing vigorously. Aristotle would be ashamed of them.

Datun · 14/09/2018 10:02

This commenter nailed it.

I for one am absolutely enthusiastic for the new totalitarian order. You lesbians were being so selfish by keeping my penis out of your hot, hot girl-on-girl scenes! Now I can just “identify” as a lesbian-with-a-penis and you bitches HAVE to let me in, or you are bigots and bad things will happen to you.

BONUS: Since biological sex no longer exists, I can’t possibly be accused of sex-based oppression anymore, can I?

AbsintheFriends · 14/09/2018 09:52

Is there a list anywhere of people who have been booted out of their jobs for wrongthink? It would be a useful resource to call upon, and a fecking lengthy one by now.

Entirely agree with your post flippinfumin

silentcrow · 14/09/2018 09:42

Did Humanists UK ever make a statement on this? Because I have an email waiting for a reply here and I'm prepared to go nuclear if not.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 14/09/2018 09:16

Needs to go straight to court proceedings for wrongful dismissal. Lets hear a judge's opinion on 'sacked for stating an unwanted fact', and 'normal expectations and legislation around sexism (like safeguarding and common sense) don't count when the magic word 'trans' is invoked'. It's like being lost in a fucking game of dungeons and dragons with a lot of very tedious teenagers.

Beesandfrogsandfleas · 14/09/2018 08:22

I think my head can’t spin any more, and then there it goes again.
A bad time to be a student I think.

Charley50 · 14/09/2018 08:15

It's all insane. Every new thing I read just gets more and more shocking. How have these threatening, bullying, horrible men with penises, who may or may not wear dresses, got so much power?
How have they managed to infer homophobia when challenged, when most of them aren't even gay?
I just don't get it. All the arguments against GRA are so clear and such common sense. The TRA's are like a gaslighting abusive partner. How can anyone have not seen through it by now?
This rant could have gone on any of the trans threads btw. It's all so awful.

TerfsUp · 14/09/2018 07:41

That is horrible, Angelos. I hope that justice and common sense prevail and that you are reinstated.

FermatsTheorem · 14/09/2018 07:36

This student union officer gets the immediate boot for sharing a Spectator article on Twitter, yet a national student union officer, Jess Bradley got their ladypenis out in their workplace and posted actual photos online and 6 weeks later the investigation is still ongoing.

Yes Betty the double standards are mind-blowing, aren't they?

Bit like the JK Rowling thread where wee woke wazzock Owl is brushing off Karen White's multiple rapes and sexual assaults of female prisoners when he was put in a women's prison as "not a trans issue at all, just one of those things that happens because we have some bad people in society," while at the same time vilifying JKR for liking a newspaper article by Janice Turner.

I have come to the conclusion that some of these people aren't just stupid, aren't just a bit nutty, aren't just so open-minded their brains have fallen out. Some of them are actually evil. When you dismiss putting a rapist in a women's prison as "just one of those things" but call for the wrath of Khan to fall on a woman for wrongthink, you're not just being a bit stupid, you are indicating the depths of your sheer and utter hatred for women.

FlippinFumin · 14/09/2018 07:30

I feel like I am living in some dystopian nightmare. Surely any day now all those 'woke folk' are going to put out a statement saying

'Sorry for the derail the last couple of years. We just needed to know how ridiculous we could be before people started to disagree with us. You have to admit we got pretty far down the road before the general populace noticed how ridiculous things were getting. You can all go back to normality now, women don't have penises, and we aren't going to allow any more rapists in women's prisons. As you were. And well done feminists, you saw us'.

SunsetBeetch · 14/09/2018 07:12

"However, Sánchez-Schilling subsequently tweeted: “In response to the hundreds of notifications I have: women can have penises and this is regardless of whether you conceive gender to be based on sex or not, TERF is not a slur, comparisons to Orwell are trite and there is more to philosophy than pedantic debate.” "

Ha ha ha. Idiot. He couldnthave tweeted anything better to illustrate this utter wankydoodle.

SophoclesTheFox · 14/09/2018 07:10

Durham University Philosophy Society stands by the policies adopted by the Equality, Diversity and Inclusion team within the Department of Philosophy, therefore we do not tolerate practices of racism, sexism, or trans-exclusionary sentiments

Au contraire, Durham University Philosophy Society. I can't think of a more blatant piece of sexism than dismantling the very definition of what being a woman is by pretending that woman is a feeling in a man's head.

THAT IS SEXISM, you overly woke dim witted bunch of plums! So actually, yes, you do tolerate sexism - you endorse it pretty heartily in this case.

SunsetBeetch · 14/09/2018 07:09

*Angelos

SunsetBeetch · 14/09/2018 07:08

Aneglos is well worth a follow on twitter. Give him some support if you can!

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