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Accepting the term 'cis'?

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MyBeloved · 12/09/2018 18:52

During a debate with a teenage male family member, I was told I had to accept I was a ciswoman, not a woman...whether I liked it or not! I was also told as a ciswoman I had priviages trans mtf could only dream of.

I feel angry. Should I accept this? Or shall I continue standing up for my adult human female rights?!

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Cascade220 · 12/09/2018 21:16

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carbuncleonapigsposterior · 12/09/2018 21:04

SwedishEdith "Was there a cisman option?" I wish I knew that but friend told me she was so baffled by the "ciswoman" option, never having heard the phrase before,I suppose it didn't occur to her to notice whether there was one or not, I suspect not. I did ask my husband whether he was a cisman earlier tonight, his reply "I don't think so, pissed man occasionally!" He doesn't understand the whole cis thing anyway, foreign language to him.

noeffingidea · 12/09/2018 21:01

I wouldn't accept this. I also wouldn't accept a teenager telling me what to do.

littlbrowndog · 12/09/2018 20:58

Och it’s just a few idiots and no,wee guy would ever call me cis to me face

But but but it’s the dark people behind the idiots changing laws and policies

Ereshkigal · 12/09/2018 20:54

I logic better than 99% of TRAs.

Ereshkigal · 12/09/2018 20:53

It's only popular with The Woke.

Ekphrasis · 12/09/2018 20:53

Like the logic eresh.

So I'm a woman cos I say so.

Women ARE women!

Rebecca36 · 12/09/2018 20:52

I had never heard the word 'cis' until I came on here. Didn't realise it was so popular!

I'm happy with merely being a woman. If someone who isn't a woman wants to call themselves a woman, they're welcome but they don't have to prefix my gender with cis ...... or my sex or whatever it was last time I looked.

Ereshkigal · 12/09/2018 20:52

"Cis" would at least have some logic if "trans" actually meant anything. Since it means a wide range of things, like "queer", it's not clear what "cis" is the antonym of. If I am a woman simply because I say I am (thanks Shon) then it necessarily follows that I am not "cis" if I simply say I am not. So best refrain from misgendering people. It is Literal Violence, you know.

Stickerladiesoftheworldunite · 12/09/2018 20:50

I'll never accept it.
I'll not use pronouns to introduce myself either.

Why? Because I'm 45 and I don't have to. Call me the C* word call me T**
Call me what you want, but I won't respond unless it's my name.

howlsmovingcastle84 · 12/09/2018 20:50

upstartcrow
"Or are some of us more equal than others".

All women are equal, but the women with penises are more equal than the others

(btw I'm watching Upstart Crow at the moment)

Ekphrasis · 12/09/2018 20:49

Was shocked at his insistence i HAD to accept it"whether i loked it or not"!

Hmmm now which of bewilderness's rules does that sound like...?

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MyBeloved · 12/09/2018 20:49

Transwomen are supposed to be womenand women cannot be called women but have to be ciswomen? That is stealing the term women imo

This.

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Ekphrasis · 12/09/2018 20:47

You could also meet "accept your cis" with "accept a TW is a TIM".

Furx · 12/09/2018 20:46

Some animals are more equal than others

Ekphrasis · 12/09/2018 20:45

It's just occurred tor that cis woman is an oxymoron as women can do and wear absolutely everything a man can. They only thing they can't do is ejaculate sperm (Samantha from SATC reliably educated me that women can ejaculate.)

Ereshkigal · 12/09/2018 20:44

YY deep. That's what I meant I just wanted to stress how important this weasel word was.

explodingkitten · 12/09/2018 20:38

Transwomen are supposed to be womenand women cannot be called women but have to be ciswomen? That is stealing the term women imo.

BabyTeeth · 12/09/2018 20:34

I am a bionic woman.

deepwatersolo · 12/09/2018 20:34

Compliant Individual Signalling = members of an oppressed class who adopt terminology that centres the oppressor class.

Or:
Compliant Individual Signalling = members of an oppressed class who centre the oppressor class.

Lest we forget, Posie Parker was explicitly told by that one 'cis-Feminist' in that meeting (detailed in the other thread) that they are centering people with penises in their 'Feminism'.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 12/09/2018 20:34

..being referred to as a cis woman, which is literally so inoffensive it's laughable you have had to write a post about it.

Inoffensive? Laughable? What about pronouns? Would you tell a men who identify as women that they should just get over themselves if someone calls them "he"? Or is that somehow different, Ellen?

UpstartCrow · 12/09/2018 20:28

I thought peoples lived reality and preferred pronouns were sacrosanct? Or are some of us more equal than others.

Ereshkigal · 12/09/2018 20:19

With thanks to LaSqrrl!

Ereshkigal · 12/09/2018 20:19

Compliant Individual Signalling = members of an oppressed class who adopt terminology that centres the oppressor class.

deepwatersolo · 12/09/2018 20:15

Two things here, I want to comment on:

There are worse things happening in the world than you being referred to as a cis woman.

Well, Ellen7262, there are also worse things happening in the world than people with dicks not being allowed to pee in women's toilets. And yet, here we are, a couple of years into a never ending activist transwomen hissy fit, and screams of genocide and literal murder.

...because whether you like it or not, trans women ARE women...

There is one thing that is really uncontroversial: people who can't define the terms they use, like 'women', are in no position to say who or what is or isn't said term, in this case 'a woman. This is really logic 101, folks.