Accepting the term 'cis'?

Glad to oblige, MsBeee, thank Katelyn though!

it's just a way for bullies to shut people up really isn't it?'.

Fekko, it so is.

It's also:

A way for the social outliers/socially inept boys in school to get a group identity and/or indulge their autogynephilia and get into the girl's toilets.

And for middle aged men to indulge their sexual fetishes and autogyneohilia.

An absolute dream for sexual predators.

A way for girls to reject the pornified stereotype of women performing sexualised femininity and/or getting back at their mothers.

And for a very small group of people to relieve their gender dysphoria - which they are now being told is not a mental illness

Unfortunately, this last group (possibly the last two groups) are being thrown under the bus by the demands of the extreme trans-activists (the other groups).

It's also highly likely to be a trend - just the step on from the gender-bending of the 80s/early 90s - in which case there is no need for puberty blockers, sex hormones or surgery to change your body/render you infertile. FFS.

Ereshkigal I'd not seen that before, made my evening.

Never gets old, that tweet!

In their own words:

^am again reminded of the hissy fit certain transwomen threw when enby females dared to call themselves transwomen. 'You're stealing the words we need to describe our experiences!'
Irony is ironic.^

https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2017/10/26/there-is-only-one-protected-class-of-women-and-it-is-men/

I always think expecting women to call themselves "cis" is a bit like if a religious person demanded that non-religious people call themselves "infidel". Not a perfect analogy, but the same idea of expecting other people to define themselves according to an ideology they don't share.

No woman identifies 100% with the stereotypes imposed upon her.

Neither is the definition of woman 'not a man who identifies as a woman'.

Strewth where do these people get off? They get their own definition, and we get defined as 'not them'?

When the reality is they cannot possibly be defined without us. Of the two, we are the only group that can be defined as a concept by ourselves.

Their own definition is conditional upon our very existence.

And it's ludicrous to suggest that women have any privilege over men. You only have to look at the actual men who are spearheading this entire thing, to see their power.

It's also the ever present irony and lack of logic which characterises this, that allows a teenage boy to lecture a grown woman over imposing a label on her that she doesn't accept, and yet claiming she has the privilege. 😂

If we have the privilege, tell him to fuck off, don't let the door smack him on the way out.

My teen said today 'all this gender stuff - it's just a way for bullies to shut people up really isn't it?'. He had many aunties and female cousins who don't fit into neat little boxes.

That's my boy. It's still LGB to me.

I am again reminded of the hissy fit certain transwomen threw when enby females dared to call themselves transwomen. 'You're stealing the words we need to describe our experiences!'
Irony is ironic.

If TWAW, and I'm a woman, then therefore I'm also a transwoman. It's them who is being transphobic by suggesting that there's a difference between transwomen and women.

Just ask arrogant teenage male to define woman. Then gender. Keep asking questions, drill down on their own definitions, force them to defend their terms. Like posy did - and those fools had to admit to centering penis people in their feminism.

In order for them to 'prove' that transwomen are women, they need to show that "trans" is an adjective to describe a type of woman (like black, tall, angry etc), so then they need another adjective for non-trans women and they can't use the word "real" so they came up with "cis"

However, as transwomen are men there is absolutely no need for the term cis.

deepwatersolo

Well, Ellen7262, there are also worse things happening in the world than people with dicks not being allowed to pee in women's toilets. And yet, here we are, a couple of years into a never ending activist transwomen hissy fit, and screams of genocide and literal murder.

There is one thing that is really uncontroversial: people who can't define the terms they use, like 'women', are in no position to say who or what is or isn't said term, in this case 'a woman. This is really logic 101, folks.

Thank you. This post was a thing of beauty. Nicely done.

It's as if the woke folk, brocialist people have not spent one second listening to feminists for decades (spoiler alert: that's exactly what happened).

Cisgender is a bird in a gilded cage.

and who said feminists don't have a sense of humor

CisMyArse 😂😂

its all exis-cis-tensial-cis nonsense.

Nope. I wouldn’t accept this for one minute. First off I’d be grounding him or whatever works for you as a punishment for being told you should accept it! Your teenage son is your kid and I’d also be having a very stern word with whoever has been putting this crap in his head.

cis my arse.

its a cis-pit

numptynuts

Cis, my arse.

You called?

Transactivists on twitter are telling women that if they don't have a gender identity, they are non-binary.

That is literal erasure of the female sex, and leaves the word "woman" meaningless.

There is no "woman" in trans ideology. It is cisgender woman, transgender woman or non-binary/genderfluid/QUERTY+++$%?!

twitter.com/SabrinaMulhJj/status/1035113899203481601

I mean, it's easily dismissed as "oh, that's just an extremist" - but I don't think it is. That is the ideology. Gender identity is all.

See I don’t even know how a adult women would even let a teenage boy tell her what to do and say and think

Me neither. Tell him to pipe down.

I am a woman. Cis means nothing to me and never will. End of discussion.

Stonewall do not say that cis is the opposite if trans

They say that cis means your gender identity matches your sex.

They say that gender iis a social construct. They say that not all people whose gender Expression is not aligned with their sex identify as trans. They say gender identity is an innate sense of gender .( an innate sense of a socially described set of rules and how you fit to them) .and i think they must be saying that not everyone has a gender identity .....or it may be saying that many of us have a non binary identity which again would not be cis

So unless you have a gender identity you cannot be trans nor cis.

www.stonewall.org.uk/help-advice/glossary-terms

This implies a gender identity . I reject gender. I am neither cis nor trans.

My teen has a friend and he asked me to intervene in an argument they were having. This 14 year old girl was under the impression that men could grow ovaries ☹️ Teenagers just need to be educated OP.