The death of women's sports?

The Paralympic thing also demonstrates that it's not just the athlete who stands to gain from them doing well

A coach also tried to say that she had a previously undiagnosed health issue like cerebral palsy and tried to convince her that she was more disabled than she actually was. Other athletes were suspicious but no one seemed to raise their concerns.

I imagine her learning difficulties may have made her open to manipulation.

I read that. Her old coach was most surprised to see her competing as blind when she had previously had learn.
difficulties.

Article today on the BBC Website saying that a female Paralympic athlete has possibly been encouraged by her coach to exaggerate her disabilities in order to compete in Paralympic events.

This just shows the lengths that ambitious people will go to in order to win at their sports, and may be applicable in the future to men deciding to compete as Transwomen.

There should be a Trans Olympics, just as there is Paralympics. Ensures fairness, safety and the protection of women's sport.

As it stands, allowing boys and men to compete against women and girls is a lie.

And it's cheating.

It only takes one man to claim he identifies as a woman, enter Wimbledon and beat Serena, and that will be the death of women's tennis.

It will be very interesting to see how Japan (next olympics) deals with the whole trans issue.
Their own rules about transitioning are very very strict. and it is a very sex segregated culture with a lot of sex segregated spaces... I would say their public toliets are often not always set up differently.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/japan-transgender-people-sterilise-before-transition-gender-change-lgbt-rights-a8086341.html

Point and laugh. It's the strongest weapon we've got.*

Philippa York, what a joke.
Hannah Mouncey, what a joke.
Laurel Hubbard, what a joke.
Andraya Yearwood, what a joke.

*channelling Margaret Atwood: Men are afraid women will laugh at them...

There's not much advantage in being a male diver, is there? The women seem better at completing the somersaults, possibly because they are smaller and have more flexibility in the hips. There's mixed synchro diving now.

Competitive rhythmic gymnastics is still female-only in Europe and synchronised swimming has no male-only category. If men wanted to have their own competitions in these sports that would be fine, obviously.

There is not such thing as trans girls. They are just guys

I cant think of any sports in which a woman or girl would have an advantage over the Male.

Gymnastics. I think women are more flexible than men hence the different events in men's and women's gymnastics. Women are also smaller. I would imagine men might find the beam difficult.

Sorry - posted in a rush - you are right of course, it is 100km.

FermatsTheorem those times are for 100km not 100 miles. And 100km appears to be an anomaly (it's not raced on fast road/track courses very often). At longer disances the gap reverts to ~10%. For instance the overall 100 mile records are 11.28 and 12.24.

Who knows to be honest. She is over 6 foot tall as it is (but her dad's side are all huge and very sporty). She is naturally sporty and had an amazing build for athletics and sport. Her job is physical although she will be managing her own watch soon.

Asaprofessional I wonder how much your niece would have achieved if she had been put on puberty blockers then T. Would she have developed physically and been able to reach peak fitness?

It was exactly a discussion like this that led to the setting up of Fair Play for Women. Although it’s only been public facing (in a more formal sense) for the past year or so and built up a presence recently, behind the scenes it’s been active for over three years now, and has its roots very firmly in mumsnet, in discussions like this one.

There's not going to be a lot of data on races of 100 miles + because not that many people enter them.

There are one or two events/records held by women.

Lael Wilcox becomes the first woman to win the trans (as in coast-to-coast, for the avoidance of ambiguity) America bike race for the first time.
www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/01/female-trans-america-endurance-racer-lael-wilcox

Nicky Spinks becomes the first person of either sex to to complete the "double Ramsey Round":
www.inov-8.com/blog/nicky-spinks-double-ramsay-round/

Courtney Dauwalter wins Moab ultramarathon (238 miles) in mixed field:
gearjunkie.com/courtney-dauwalter-moab-200-winner

The gap in men's and women's records at distances from 100m up to marathon is remarkably stable at about 10%. For 100 miles, however, the gap narrows appreciably: the men's record is 6.13.33 (the faster time of 6.10 is on a track rather than road) and the women's is 6.33.11 which I calculate to be about 5%. A quick google indicates that longer distances don't have records kept for them as they are "non standard distances."

My niece works in a service where you need to be strong and fit. She came top of her intake class (only a very few women) and beat the men on strength and stamina. It didn't go down well but she also did martial arts (could also beat the boys) back then and had a sports scholarship, so was bloody fit.

She was a tomboy and now married to her wife. I guess if she was a kid now they would be voices asserting that she wanted to be a boy. Which she didn't / doesn't. She is a gorgeous (not that it matters), beautiful (not that it matters) young woman with an equally beautiful wife. I guess if you called her 'cis' you would regret it (she is very assertive too).

I know someone who is a coach in the UK and has links to US track.

He correctly points out that these males are also stealing women university sports scholarships.

It sounds like people are very aware, roll their eyes buy can't do or say anything.

There was a theory going round for a while that women could outdo men in ultra distance running races... I'm not sure it has borne up to the test of time?

I watched the last of the world series triathlons today - those women are nails. It was so brilliant to watch a group of incredibly tough, strong, talented athletes battling it out.

Put a man in the mix, and that would have been destroyed utterly.