Do you recognise yourself?

Oh lovely. Some pointless church bashing for spice. For those not keeping up, not every churchgoer is a bigot, and it's possible to be very supportive of LGB people and be a Christian, and TRAism is a parasite neo religion which demands more privileges than any traditional religion would get away with in our secular society.

The one disappointment in the article is that it's traditional for such tales on the Internet to end with "drops mic".

I absolutely was struck about how the trans individual who wrote this article felt the need for a protected space where they could share with others who had a similar life experience. That is what women have fought for and that is what we are fighting to retain.

OTOH other posters suggest this individual was born female and therefore perhaps sees the appeal but trans people born male would be furious that he/she was making that argument?

why do all self-proclaimed non-binary people write in the style of a ‘and then the whole restaurant stood up and clapped’ chain FB post

It's almost like the money-shot.

Sausage

That article in The Independent is almost funny. What a perfect set of events to happen to support Yas Necati's arguments. Almost spooky how it fell into place.

My favourite bit was when it turns out that, in need of scientific backing for their pseudo-science, they just happened to have a neuroscientist with them! What are the chances of that!

Anyway, that's my Public Service Announcement task done.

and the name of that gender-binary smashing enby transfemme demiboy? albert einstein

why do all self-proclaimed non-binary people write in the style of a ‘and then the whole restaurant stood up and clapped’ chain FB post. does it come free with the hair dye?

Because they all do. So many people clearly stopped the writer to validate trans ideology on the way home. Literally everyone has nothing more exciting to think about.

They should actually understand better than most why we want our own space.

The trouble is that there's a whole new set, who see women's spaces as validation and entitlement, the old 'identifying as' rather than 'identifying with'

These people haven't stopped to think about other people - as seafret says, it's a lack of empathy. I can easily see why various groups might not want me around - even if I really would enjoy their company or want to get involved. I can understand that not everything is about me, that the over-70's swimming club might be happy like that, and not want me butting, or that the men's shed society is happier without me barrelling through the door to talk about brewing beer, AND THAT IS FINE.

I'm still confused about why Shon Faye thought that as a MN user I might own a handbag as ugly as the one Shon took to Pride.

Not a first post, OP has a thread about being a CF in Aibu too

Oh Ok. It didn't come up in the search I did (nor did any other).

That's all I want for myself, too. Being able to hold meetings with other people who 'get it', who understand all the ways that society makes it difficult to live in a female body.

This. This "thoughtful" person has absolutely zero self awareness or sense of irony.

Was this one of you lot?

It’s almost like you think MN is the only place this conversation takes place. Every woman I know IRL is talking about this now. Every.single.one.
And we won’t stop.

I discussed it with my midwife this morning when she came. My mother in law told me everyone in her church group is talking about it and filling out the consultation. My cousin told someone in the supermarket loos.

I never tecognise my self in any anti-term rants. I appear to be hated all over the place, and yet I don’t hate trans people. I don’t fear them. I don’t wish them ill. I don’t deny their existence. I would, out of politeness, use their preferred pronouns.

But yet because I don’t believe you can actually become a woman they pin all the above on me.

No, this isn't a first post, but the OP has made it clear with previous posts that they sit in the TRA camp. So if they think a question like this would be seen as anything other than sinister fuckery, that is of course, disingenuous.

Snowflakeitis, sausage.

Lack of empathy though isn't it - a clinical/ pathological lack.

Not a first post, OP has a thread about being a CF in Aibu too.

why do all self-proclaimed non-binary people write in the style of a ‘and then the whole restaurant stood up and clapped’ chain FB post. does it come free with the hair dye?

We are supposed to stop and think, is this me. Is this how I come across.
Like Karen White would, in some other alternate reality.

@UndercoverGC, that's exactly what I think. They should actually understand better than most why we want our own space.

Sometimes I wonder whether a poster on Twitter is someone from here, but to ask this question is a bit daft, OP. Is someone going to tell you, do you think? You don't appear to be a regular poster and you could be anyone, well-meaning or not.

Odd first post OP.