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Brainstorm your ideal outcome

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BarrackerBarmer · 11/09/2018 10:03

This is what I think a fair society would look like.

  1. Repeal the GRA. Noone changes sex, and society shouldn't force people to pretend they can.
  1. Create a SEX Recognition Act in its place. Sex is a protected characteristic, we can define and describe it, and we have an obligation to do this in law. We must give it watertight legal protection. Make it unassailable. Outline the same sex rights that are protected.
  1. Legally separate terminology -ALL terminology that relates to sex Vs gender.
All legal institutions already recognise the fundamental difference between the two, but currently they rely on deliberate ambiguity and conflation of terms to make two opposing concepts opaque and interchangeable to suit an agenda. This ends. There are legal terms which relate to sex (male/female/man/woman) , and terms which relate to gender (masculine/feminine) and these concepts are not synonymous in law. No crossover of terms. Sex has a legal lexicon, and gender does too. They are not interchangeable. .
  1. New legal protections for 'gender expression' such that no discrimination is allowed on the basis of how someone presents themselves. Not protections for 'trans' which should not exist as a legal concept. Protections for male people who present themselves as whatever they perceive their gender to be -feminine, etc. And vice versa.
A person's sex status is immutable. Their gender status - and this is NOT a compulsory characteristic, JUST LIKE RELIGION, is subject to change if wished.
  1. 'Grandfathering' of the 5000 already granted a GRC. They have passed through a period of history that endorsed a legal fiction, and they benefitted from it and will continue to do so. But that door is now closed and none will follow. Those people will be the last to be legally recognised as the sex they are not.

That is my desired outcome. What would yours be?

Don't start with the compromise you think society will give you.
Start with how you think things SHOULD be. Uncompromising.

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Knicknackpaddyflak · 11/09/2018 10:35

X post Upstart* who said it better Smile

Knicknackpaddyflak · 11/09/2018 10:34

Creation of third spaces (probably safe single cubicle) in all public provisions required by law, and law protecting so that disabled spaces must be kept for disabled people and additional provision must be created. Grants and timelines proportional to size of provision to be set at local authority level.

Major and very well funded national campaign to address and reduce male violence, calling it out for exactly what it is, with no pussy footing about.

UpstartCrow · 11/09/2018 10:15

As above. Plus;
Protect existing sex segregated spaces and services.
If there is a demand and where feasible, create a third unisex space for people who are happy to use it; but not at the expense of existing groups or services.

But not before facilities for disabled people have been created, and not at their expense. Disabled women are the group at the highest risk of sexual assault.

''Women with a long-term illness or disability were more likely to be victims of sexual assault in the last 12 months than those without a long-term illness or disability (5.3% compared with 2.7%). There was no significant difference among men (1.0% compared with 0.8%).''
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/sexualoffencesinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2017

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