Attack on Fair Play for Women in the Indie

Fairplay for Women attacked by TELI (Trans Equality Legal Initiative)
"The Trans Equality Legal Initiative has been founded by a coalition of lawyers and activists, all with a strong background in human rights in the LGBT sphere.

Our structure values the importance of partnership working between both Trans and Cisgender professionals and the need to ensure our work is led by the voices of Trans and Non-Binary people. Each of our areas of focus are Co-Convened by one Trans Place and one Open Place Convener."
www.teli.org.uk/our-team/

TELI Twitter comments:
"We wonder how qualified extremist anti trans activist group "fair play for women" is to comment on prison processes & the law other than their personal prejudice against trans people. We're sad to see @VictoriaLIVE host them as experts without adequate rebuttal #VictoriaLive"

"It's as if they lituraly wanted to incite fear on this topic instead of asking actual experts to discuss aka representatives from prison system ourselves at TELI Press for Change and the organisation Women In Prisons. Not rocket science to research those groups as experts."

twitter.com/UKTELI/status/1039091173267320833

Thanks for those links Rowan.

There's a bit on what this journalist has written on muckrack.

Apparently they think teenage girls should be given vibrators and is surprised this is controversial.

muckrack.com/yas-necati

So a man smoking pot in a female toilet, was observed by another man in a female toilet, who then went on to bump straight into a women [how could he tell?] who then also decided to tell him all about the GRA just like that?

Wow. All in one trip out?

'Science says trans people are real' that's all we need to know really.

'Yas Necati is an apprentice at The Independent and the London Evening Standard'.
There is a pattern within Nacati's articles and its a shame that their editors/supervisors/mentors are apparently encouraging this:

cf Necati's article attacking Lucy Massoud and Man Friday March 2018:
www.independent.co.uk/voices/lucy-masoud-fbu-lgbt-trans-london-fire-brigade-union-today-transphobic-a8267096.html

(Nacati hangs this story on a deliberately edited and then misquoted extract from the Today program. Emily Brothers introduced herself as 'a woman with trans experience', Lucy Massood said she doesn't know what that means. We listened to the radio that morning and had the same puzzled reaction to Brothers' description)

Articles attacking Transgender Trend:
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/transgender-trend-crowdfunder-school-children-young-people-resource-pack-suspended-a8379556.html
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/transphobic-booklet-school-campaign-crowdfunder-reinstated-fundraising-transgender-trend-gendered-a8389346.html

Article attacking the women who protested 'Get the L Out' at Pride London, Critical Sisters, Mayday4Women, Object and the Lesbian Rights Alliance,Fair Play for Women, Transgender Trend, A Women’s Place, Man Friday, ReSisters, Transgender Trend:
www.independent.co.uk/voices/anti-trans-protests-london-pride-transgender-transphobia-terf-lgbt-feminist-a8448521.html

If my 12 year old boy whined on like the narrator in The Inde, he'd be told to come off Fortnite and go to bed as he was over tired.

I don't buy it (the yarn and the paper).

The Secret Diary of Adrian Hyberbole aged 13 and 3/4....

"A chance encounter across town, a lone leafleter, a neuroscientist. A non binary journalist in persecution.

"Literal violence attacks from every corner. The fear of not being addressed by the correct pronoun consumes my every waking moment. Why oh why is the GRA taking so long? Why are a teeny weeny group of selfish women stopping me from getting on with my life?"

The drama! I'm sure the fictional campaigner went back and ordered one of Owl's books online (Owl's tiresome book promotion even spills into this article) while pondering their own existence.

Somebody's telling porkies. This is just a layer cake of fabrication.

What does irk me is that women aren't given this platform to discuss our concerbs. This 'journalist' was given a platform because they say they are 'non binary'

If they care so much for sacred spaces they should campaign for their own, go out leafleting and stop making everything about "me."

I see they persist in 'midgendering' women, even after women (especially GC feminists) have said repeatedly that they are not 'cis'. Is this not literal violence right there?

Indeed, this is literal violence.
I do not identify with any form of gender and yet I am a woman. LITERAL VIOLENCE!

The comments are heartening. Seems like the general public is no longer allowing misinformation to pass unchallenged.

But this night we spoke for a good few minutes. I mentioned to her that, in my role as a journalist, I had personally called the Ministry for Justice about FPFW’s trans prisoner study, and they had said there was no evidence to back it whatsoever. This was whilst working with the amazing non-binary activist Owl Fisher on a piece they wrote disproving the study – the woman hadn’t heard of Owl, and she hadn’t read Owl’s piece.

there's some interesting comments by Andrew Gilligan about Owl's article. Also an IPSO ruling to consider.

Also like the emphasis on the FPFW study being made up (despite it being confirmed my MOJ then factchecked by BBC also) and the razor blade thing rearing its head. Its just a load of nonsense, like usual.

But yes, they see the value of a trans only space. Yet think women (misgendered women at that) are horrendous and evil bigots for wanting female only space.

And to top it all off, the 'self ID won't change female spaces' and Travis Alabanza mentioned too.

Delicious.

But despite this, a small group of very vocal cisgender women have been fighting against the passing of the GRA.

I see they persist in 'midgendering' women, even after women (especially GC feminists) have said repeatedly that they are not 'cis'. Is this not literal violence right there?

So bad, it's funny. I'm loving the tale of the 'chance' encounter with an evil T**f who was set straight and sent on her way.

So is the writer trans or non-binary? I thought they were different, maybe I'm wrong. I don't believe for a moment even Dawn Butler would say anything so trite as 'it's ok for other people to have their equal rights and their human rights'. Would she? Also I thought FPFW had slightly under-estimated how many trans prisoners are sex offenders if that's what is meant by the FPFW study. Load of bollox.

Yeah, this definitely happened. And the urban myths just keep on coming...

Where's the bit where everyone around cheered, and the whole train carriage, or crowd on the pavement, whatever, applauded?? Disappointing.

Their website is just too annoying to engage with!

The author of that article claims to be trans, but doesn't seem to realise that the GRA was passed in 2004.

It's Yaz Necati again. I know I'm probably letting the side down but whenever I read one of their 'what I did on the weekend' essays in the Indy I just want to give them a hug or a chocolate button or something

It’s freshers.

Idiots out and about

This is bullshit. How old is this person, 14?
I was out leafleting on Saturday. A lot of people were interested, there were several long conversations, including with a man who was worried about his daughter. There was a woman who thought self ID was a good idea because there are lots of sexes, something about Mosaic jeans apparently. I politely said that there are lots of opinions, offered her a leaflet and asked her to have a look at it anyway. It was very respectful, if not a tad awkward. She was the first person I stopped as well, it didn’t help my nerves.
This person is an idiot. Do they think we’re just out there for shits and giggles?

They're so yawnsome, aren't they? It's drama lama all day long and if there's no actual drama lama-ing to be done they just make some up rather than go drama lama cold turkey.

Navel-gazing drivel.

I’m a meat eater and I was approached by a vegan campaigner in the street...this is what I learnt.

Oy! Oy! I’m a vegan! Don’t dare drag us into it!

My Friend Who is Totally A Real Actual Neuroscientist, Honest, It's True And Everything...