Literal Violence

Some states in the US you can be sacked for being transgender.

But anyway I give up, no interest in discussion and twisting what people say.

In no way am I justifying pulling a knife but the obvious route of going to HR may not have been a viable option as they could have just been sacked for complaining.

Which they could take to an industrial tribunal and win.

Good luck with that when you take a knife to someone.

Crocodike might be the most Freudian Freudian slip I've ever made.

I think if someone pulls a knife you should pull a gun. That's the Chicago way.

Or just a bigger knife. That's the Crocodike Dundee way.

I learnt all my life lessons from the movies.

I have no idea how you got to that point. There is a whole scope of choices between going to HR and pulling a knife.

Going to HR may not have been an option, we don't know the legal status of the involved state, the next option isn't pulling a knife though.

So no I didn't justify their behaviour at all.

Times article today, 'Rapist, Karen White, in women’s jail ‘was trans faker’

(extract)
"Neighbours at Elphin Court in Mytholmroyd, West Yorkshire, including a transgender woman, recalled how White made little effort to transition. “David just walked into his flat one day as David and walked out the next day as Karen,” she said. When an elderly man used the pronoun “he”, White called the police to report it as a hate crime.

The neighbours said that White “ruled Elphin Court with fear”, threatening an elderly disabled woman and setting off fire alarms, and had been found guilty of stabbing a resident." (continues)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rapist-karen-white-in-women-s-jail-was-trans-faker-lbcwjp8jc

Karen White aka David Thompson & Stephen Wood has a long history of violent offences including many against women and chldren.

In no way am I justifying pulling a knife but the obvious route of going to HR may not have been a viable option as they could have just been sacked for complaining.

Except that, yes, you are justifying their behaviour.

THE RULES OF MISOGYNY

1st rule of misogyny: Women are responsible for what men do.

4th rule of misogyny: Women's opinions are violence against men thus male violence against women is justified.

And especially for Juells

9th rule of misogyny: Men always know the "real reasons" for everything women do and say.

Wow, the amount of times I’ve been called a bitch or a whore by a man, grabbed and groped by them, and despite my difficult past, I’ve never taken a knife to them. Funny that.

juell

I will not be complicit in defending the indefensible.
There is absolutely no situation upon which the knife weilder was excusable.

I’ve learned that if anyone threatens you with a knife in the workplace you better press criminal charges because if you don’t, HR will say it was your fault.

It would be helpful to know the State this occured in (though I guess it is most likely New York) Trans rights do vary considerably across the states and in a significant number they have very few rights.

In no way am I justifying pulling a knife but the obvious route of going to HR may not have been a viable option as they could have just been sacked for complaining.

The purpose of framing people (usually women) saying the wrong thing / saying nasty things as equivalent as physical violence

Is so that physical violence can be done as "defense".

In this case it sounds like the person who was saying the wrong thing all the time could have been beign nasty >> line manager HR is the route to take with bullying

Not threatenign to stab them to death.

Yeah. The appropriate response to the perception of being bullied is to pull a knife on someone.

That'll teach the bitch to mis-gender a colleague.

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Yep juells the bitch was obviously asking for it.

That isn't what I'm saying. The knife-wielder obviously had MH issues, I wouldn't have wanted to work with them. It does sound like bullying from the other worker, though. Are we not allowed say if we think someone was bullied?

Obviously the knife wielder had to be sacked.

Of course the transgender person should have made a proper complaint against the coworker much earlier. I have little time for pronoun nonsense but if one employee of that shop was deliberately and repeatedly being mean then that should be an HR issue.

I've worked in places where a bully has deliberately used the wrong name for a person all the damn time: like calling Jason James just to be a dick. It is not OK.

Of course, if the person genuinely is making mistakes not being a dick then a little bit of compassion for each other would go a long way.

There simply isn't enough information to know if this was bullying or snowflake-ism. Then again, there was no prior complaint and a harrasment order was granted.

I think HR did OK on this one. Sad situation, handles properly by courts (the order) and HR (the sacking). The HR article seems quite sensible to me.

I worked with soneone for 10 years that called me the wrong name every single day despite receiving multiple emails with my name on them every day (eg Janet instead of Jane). I found it hilarious for some reason (even though he was a misogynist prick who couldnt be bothered to remember my name as I was only a woman), as did my colleagues, as it made him look like an idiot. I guess I should have stabbed him instead.

^ @DancelikeEmmaGoldman Brave and stunning

/sarcasm

I read this very carefully and took away a lot of learning which I immediately put into practice.

A woman at the supermarket called me an elderly woman, so I ran her over several times with my trolley and then smacked her in the head with a (family size) jar of gherkins.

Then the post office person called me Mrs instead of Ms, so I used a letter opener to stab them in the hand several times.

And then when a random man in the street called me ugly, I kidnapped him and staked him out over a wasp nest.

I can't stand people using incorrect descriptors - it's so violent.

The lesson?

Male person demonstrates male violence?

Was that it?

Did I get it right?

I assume the OP is being ironic.

Am glad they sacked the employee who threatened another employee with a knife. A bit gobsmacked by the editor's note at the end:

Editor's note: The onus is on the employer to create a safe work environment for transgender employees, says Kayley Whalen, an activist at the National LGBTQ Task Force. If a transgender employee feels mistreated, Whalen recommends that they document the harassment, notify HR and pursue legal action if the behavior continues.

My takeaway is don't hire people so unstable that they'd threaten someone with a knife over a pronoun.

How very ladylike.