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The magnificent Jane Clare Jones

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Anlaf · 09/09/2018 20:03

I think she's thoroughly great already, and she has just published this on "Gay Rights and Trans Rights – A Compare and Contrast"

janeclarejones.com/2018/09/09/gay-rights-and-trans-rights-a-compare-and-contrast

Subtitle So, Momentum made a video huh?

Enjoy

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Anlaf · 09/09/2018 20:32

There's so much to enjoy!

It’s only slight hyperbole to say that right now a lot of us feel like we’re stuck in Room 101 except O’Brien looks like Riley Dennis and the ‘2+2=5’ is ‘Sex does not exist’ and the rats are a bunch of trans activists threatening us with baby blue and pink baseball bats (and in case you want to wilfully misinterpret me, I’m not saying trans people are vermin, I’m using the exact reference of the thing that scares Winston shitless and is used to coerce him).

Grin
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tiredandweary · 09/09/2018 20:28

Such a good read! Well argued, comprehensive and intelligent.
Cheered me up no end.

Anlaf · 09/09/2018 20:25

such a fan am I, I hadn't actually read the piece yet

Some highlights:

People just want to be told what the good right-thinking progressive position is and then get on with the business of trying to get on with their business. Fair enough. But there’s a massive problem with all this. And that’s because the parallel between gay rights and trans rights is as superficial and insubstantial as that glossy sound-bite-stuffed Momentum video

The use of the concept of ‘homophobia’ to dismiss objections to gay rights carried a ton of weight because the basis for a legitimate moral or political objection would be that something causes a harm, and in the case of gay rights there is a complete dearth of convincing arguments as to why homosexuality is a harm. It doesn’t harm homosexuals (whereas repressing it evidently does), and it doesn’t harm anyone else.[1] But this is precisely where the ‘homophobia-transphobia’ parallel falls completely apart. Because in the case of the trans rights agenda there is actually a load of potential harms we might reasonably be worried about.

Let me just state something really fucking obvious that apparently needs to be stated: You cannot mandate how people perceive the world. That is totalitarian as all living fuck. You cannot demand people perceive the world in line with your ideology and that perceiving something that ALL humans perceive is actually the same as being a genocidal racist.

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ChiaraRimini · 09/09/2018 20:22

Brilliant stuff. Inspirational.