Has Dh out-feministed me, what do you think?

Agree this actually happens to men, too. My husband (when traveling for work and the agency puts the title Dr. on his ticket) gets called Mr. fairly often.

As for me, I don't use the title Dr. unless I'm in a professional situation. If you're coming in to my office to seek my medical advice, yes, I'm Dr. Fayne, and I would hope my recommendations mean something to you. If I'm traveling to Hawaii, I'm just Mrs. Fayne, and my request for an ice water is no more important or necessary than the person across the aisle, whether he or she is a fellow physician or a sanitation worker. We're both humans.

The fundamental problem is structural sexism, not whether one airline employee made one mistake. Women's achievements are routinely dismissed. Women are accused of snobbery if they use titles they've worked for, such as Dr or Professor.

When men are accused of similar snobbery, or addressed as Mr instead of Dr, it's not against a background of everyday devaluing. And I think there was a campaign on Twitter recently for female academics to change their user names to include the title Dr to address online devaluing. So that's also part of the context.

I like the anonymity of Mumsnet where no one's credentials are verifiable and we need to evaluate arguments on their quality alone. But we have unlimited characters to make those arguments. I'm rambling now, but I still think the academic at the centre of this was not unreasonable to raise the issue in Twitter. And, as always, posting online about feminism generates responses that demonstrate the need for feminism.

That would never happen to a man who had 'Dr' on his ticket, whether it was a medical title or not.

Nonsense. It happens to DH all the time and he's never posted on twitter about it.

Well, yes that. The flight attendant was unlikely to assume all the women doctors she was seeing regularly were impersonators. Also google tells me that there are more female gps than male so probably an awfully common sight

Read this then:
time.com/4538567/female-doctor-medical-emergency-airline-racism-sexism/

I've been on Quantas a couple times and dont' remember them doing that.

It is one of the posher ones though I think and I'm usually an easyjet kind of a person

No and that's fine. The airline was Qantas. I've never flown with them.

Nope I haven't.

And that's fine.

Has anyone ever been addressed by name and/or title by a stewardess when boarding plane??

I haven't.

It's usually just a direction given.

I do just think this is one of those occasions that if I'm acknowledged by name at all they've done pretty well

Yes. The whole incident just shouts vanity and ego. And tbh , not very bright. She could have corrected it there and then if it was important- not resort to Twitter.

Considering we have women with that title boarding every single flight, seems a bit unrealistic for her to be singled out?

Exactly.

Then it gets applauded and nobody would bat an eyelid. If Dr O'Dwyer had complained that the air steward called her 'Miss' instead of 'Mrs

I would think Mrs O'Dwyer was as much of
a prat as Dr O'Dwyer.

Thanks, Beyond. I can feel my blood-pressure rising reading some of the replies.

Peak, there are a few “but I want to be called mrs” on here...
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3246905-Ms-Mrs-Miss-overexcitement

Beyond. Of course. Plus the obligatory sad-face, clad in a brightly coloured shift-dress and the obligatory nude heels, clutching hubby's arm, under the headline 'why I am proud to be Mrs Jones'.

people would say she was trivial and why did she want a prize for getting a man and old fahsioned and bitchy trying to get another woman sacked for an honest mistake.

From feminists and educated people, sure. Not from the general and misogynistic public though. If you think that would be treated the same, you are deluded. Imagine if a company e.g. an airline had a policy of calling all women Ms, regardless of marital status and refused to use the title Mrs. I can guarantee you that it would go down like a cold cup of sick. Sarah Vine would no doubt write a column entitled 'Why getting married is my biggest achievement and why feminists should shut up', which would garner loads of 'hear, hear' support.

And house price too, don’t forget the house price!

whetehr the DM supported her or not would depend on the age / race / reliigon etc of the person vs the age / race / religion etc of teh air steward tbh

Totally she would be hammered.

people would say she was trivial and why did she want a prize for getting a man and old fahsioned and bitchy trying to get another woman sacked for an honest mistake.

women can do no right. is the bottom line.

I’m sure it wouldn’t take long to find an Aibu thread with that exact content. I’d look myself, if I wasn’t posting from my phone

A woman who complained about that would get hammered, and probably worse.

You reckon? The DM would adore her and there would be oodles of support from the middle-England commentators who hate feminists getting ideas above their station.

"So true. Then it gets applauded and nobody would bat an eyelid. If Dr O'Dwyer had complained that the air steward called her 'Miss' instead of 'Mrs', I bet there would be loads of public support for her, probably slagging off the stewardess for being 'jealous' and going on about 'PC gone mad'. However, if it's a title that denotes status or hard work, then woe betide any woman who dares use it. "

ie >> sorry but I think this is nonsense.
A woman who complained about that would get hammered, and probably worse.

I don't think that a woman who complained on twitter that an air steward had addressed them as Mrs rather than Miss and so had disrepected her would get "applauded"?

I think she'd get even more of a clobbering!

I'm surprised that 2 posters think that a woman who did that would get full support and everyone agreeing > a round of applause.

Women have been told forever that it's trivial to get annoyed when we are called mrs / miss / ms when we aren't IYSWIM.

I think they would get treated worse >> as PP said you don't have to work for that >> they'd get called precious and why is it important to have "won a man" and all of that stuff.

There are many women who expect to be addressed as 'Mrs', especially when the address is in writing (on invites, letters etc.) and no one thinks anything of this because 'Mrs' is acceptable for women. But if women insist on 'Dr' or even 'Ms' (and not Mrs or Miss) it is often somehow less acceptable.

So true. Then it gets applauded and nobody would bat an eyelid. If Dr O'Dwyer had complained that the air steward called her 'Miss' instead of 'Mrs', I bet there would be loads of public support for her, probably slagging off the stewardess for being 'jealous' and going on about 'PC gone mad'. However, if it's a title that denotes status or hard work, then woe betide any woman who dares use it.
It was less than 100 years ago that women were not allowed to take degrees at some universities. Even if they topped their class. Look up Gwyneth Bebb, who sued the Law Society to try to get to practice as a solicitor. She beat so many mediocre men in her law finals, scoring a first. Even the judge and one of the barristers admitted that neither of them would ever have been capable of that achievement. Yet she was not allowed a degree because she had a vagina. I think women with PhDs should shout it from the rooftops personally. Fuck modesty.

Oh and female consultants can also be Ms or Mrs and many of them are. Personally, I think get rid of marital status based titles for women. It's so so offensive when you think about it.