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Karen White case - how MN can help build political pressure for change

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PotsofJam · 08/09/2018 14:58

Jess Phillips MP has commented on the Karen White case, saying anyone convicted of VAWG should be excluded from the women’s prison estate.

See her tweet here:
twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1038350610163265537?s=21
This could be the start of a media-political process. Jess has raised a question here. Do other MPs agree with her? Does the Government agree?
Thanks to the wonder of Twitter, email and the rest, you can help make them answer that question.
So if you’re on Twitter and have some time to spare this weekend, why not send Jess’s tweet to some MPs and ask:

Do you agree with the chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Domestic Violence that prison service rules should be changed to exclude all VAWG offenders from the women’s estate, no matter what gender they identify as?

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speakingwoman · 08/09/2018 15:18

“Do you agree with the chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Domestic Violence that prison service rules should be changed to exclude all VAWG offenders from the women’s estate, no matter what gender they identify as?”

YES YES YES.

arranfan · 08/09/2018 15:18

If Phiilips were serious, she'd announce that she's asking for a suspension of the Miller report until such time as an independent panel reviews the independent evidence given to it by experts like Challenor and Bradley and whether the recommendations etc. need to be revised.

Again, she needs to reexamine her support for Stonewall while it's plainly unworkable advice and it could stand having an investigation the panels/committees that involve Challenor et al.

speakingwoman · 08/09/2018 15:16

YES

arranfan · 08/09/2018 15:14

Jess Phillips does not come out of this smelling of roses. She has supported Stonewall and was on the Maria Miller Committee. She has been cowardly. Shame on her.

Agreed. If she's had a more fundamental/radical change of mind then she needs to state this unequivocally.

theOtherPamAyres · 08/09/2018 15:12

For me, this doesn't go far enough.

I want to see the government withdraw and rethink a public policy - across every single department of education, home office etc - that allowed this to happen in the first place.

It has only come about because the government, and its Quango the so-called Equality and Human Rights commission, made it so. They embraced the transgender ideology and launched Stonewall, Gendered Intelligence and Mermaids in a stealthy project to bring in self i/d in advance of the GRA.

Jess Phillips does not come out of this smelling of roses. She has supported Stonewall and was on the Maria Miller Committee. She has been cowardly. Shame on her.

UpstartCrow · 08/09/2018 15:04

I don't think anyone with a conviction for a violent crime, or who is or has been on the sex offenders register, should be permitted to change their name or sex.
I hope that Jess can get a dialogue going because we haven't been able to.

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