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The Times - smear campaign by trans lecturer at Goldsmiths

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tiredandweary · 08/09/2018 00:45

The Times reporting on the smear campaign against academics run by 'Natacha Kennedy' of Goldsmiths. Given how movingly women academics have written here about the fear and intimidation they experience working in universities, how good to see the source of the bullying exposed. share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-goldsmiths-lecturer-natacha-kennedy-behind-smear-campaign-against-academics-f2zqbl222?shareToken=c2e850050d0c9913ecbcbbb9b0e9ccfb

And a brilliant article by Janice Turner about dangerous trans rapists in women's jails:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-rapists-are-a-danger-in-women-s-jails-5vhgh57pt?shareToken=a5c5b379f8c0f6ccd446176a676344e6

So pleased that I took out a subscription to the Times.

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TimeLady · 08/09/2018 09:22

*Should we introduce children to the concept of transgender people? The answer is yes according to an article published in the December 2010 issue of the peer-reviewed Graduate Journal of Social Science.
The article by Natacha Kennedy and Mark Hellen, entitled “Transgender Children: More Than a Theoretical Challenge,” *

www.huffingtonpost.com/joanne-herman/should-we-teach-children-_b_805133.html

Both names cited. Unbelievable. Surely Natacha's/Mark's credibility as an academic is shot by that duplicity, which appears to have been going on for years.

ChattyLion · 08/09/2018 09:21

Given the excellent lead of the universities who ARE supporting the witch hunting against gender critical thought- (particularly when expressed by female academics Hmm) -

is it time for a public petition of the universities who will NOT follow this lead- ie those institutions who require fettered speech, who support victimisation of peaceful gender critical dissenters and require and enforce the telling of lies by their staff about biology and its impact on women?

carceralfeminist · 08/09/2018 09:20

Yes to the Times, Lucy and Janice!!!!!! Brew Cake Star
Thanks for the share token OP!
Excellent!
Especially impressed by the angle of exposing TRA silencing tactics.
Will never recommend Goldsmith's to anyone if this is their attitude to academic freedom. Hopefully this will wake up the "free speech" crowd.
The comments Smile. If politicians have ANY sense left in their skulls, they'll stop this nonsense.

MinecraftHolmes · 08/09/2018 09:09

Given their jobs those academics apparently like taking charge and are rational, so it is quite plausible that they are, actually, men.

Or Northern...

speakingwoman · 08/09/2018 09:08

Wow, Goldsmiths!

deepwatersolo · 08/09/2018 09:04

All the named academics were women.

That is an unproven assertion. Given their jobs those academics apparently like taking charge and are rational, so it is quite plausible that they are, actually, men. Targetted by the caring woman Natacha Kennedy, who likes to take part.

The victimization of men by women really knows no bounds.
Glitterball

TerfsUp · 08/09/2018 09:02

I am pretty sure Mark is in his 40s.

I would put Mark's age closer to late 50s.

VickyEadie · 08/09/2018 09:00

I'sm staggered - staggered I tell you - that a "bolshie transgirl" (sic) who has conducted a nasty hate campaign aimed at discrediting fellow academics also uses their male name for work purposes.

Apart from anything else, isn't this person literally killing himself-herself?

(NB Mumsnet - I can say that because this person uses their original male name when it suits them)

ChattyLion · 08/09/2018 08:56

Just musing how my professional life could have been a lot easier if I could have had a male name I could also use.. Hmm

clickazee · 08/09/2018 08:50

Some good comments too on the online version (ignoring the usual Times dinosaurs' "I can't get my head around this" shtick). I am glad to read the universities are supporting their lecturers but I bet it's been a long time coming. Institutions have been very scared by the activists. Anything we can do to support them? As a former graduate student at Sussex, I'll be writing to the university to support Professor Stock. Can others do the same? The more support these academics get, the less likely the universities are to cave in.

rememberatime · 08/09/2018 08:44

My son is about to start at Goldsmiths. He is a huge proponent of free speech to the point where even I have disagreed with him at times. I will be interested to hear what he thinks of the woke types he comes across.

LizzieSiddal · 08/09/2018 08:37

Also loved “she[sic]”

I wonder if we’re allowed to use that on MN?

LizzieSiddal · 08/09/2018 08:35

Absolutely fab articles. Thank you to the journalists and The Times for printing them. Star

inquiquotiokixul · 08/09/2018 08:30

Excellent final line to the second article

Igneococcus · 08/09/2018 08:10

Thanks Tiger and tired that's the post I was looking for. I couldn't remember her name or the name of the project.

BettyDuMonde · 08/09/2018 07:58

I went to G/Smiths 15 years ago. Back then, they still taught women’s studies (or at least, they did as part of my course).

I’d love a timeline on what went wrong - there were some wonderfully feminist tutors there in my time - all of them seem to have moved on, some to tea;;y excellent things (a Turner Prize winner, for starters).

Considering writing to the graduate magazine, Goldlink, to ask WTF is going on?

Pacers · 08/09/2018 07:57

(Not for purposes of pedantry, but because I’d hate for someone to read such a brilliantly clear piece and the penny start to drop, only to get to the end and be confused again)

Pacers · 08/09/2018 07:55

Excellent articles, both of them.

Does anyone with Twitter fancy pointing out to Janice or The Times that there’s a confusing typo in the final paragraph of her piece “Besides, if self-ID is introduced after the Gender Recognition Act review, it will be easier for a trans prisoner to become legally male and thus have an almost automatic right to transfer”

mateysmum · 08/09/2018 07:54

I was just coming on to start a thread featuring these 2 articles. Both are bloody brilliant.

Well done The Times for being brave enough to pursue this agenda and once again thank you Janice Turner, another brilliant article that goes straight to the point in a rational, well argued way.

I felt a small sense of hope that the wheels are finally starting to come off the trans activism wagon as they show their true colours.

tiredandweary · 08/09/2018 07:52

Here's a link to an article where Lucy McDonagh, founder of the Deptford Project, talks about the problems that white middle class students (many from Goldsmiths) were causing with their tone deaf contributions to groups for working class women - you have to scroll down half way to find her comments:
www.feministcurrent.com/2018/03/23/leftist-women-uk-refuse-accept-labours-attempts-silence-critiques-gender-identity/

Hopefully R0wan will soon be along with more information.

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TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 08/09/2018 07:47

Minds. Not brains. Sigh.

TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 08/09/2018 07:47

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/03/23/leftist-women-uk-refuse-accept-labours-attempts-silence-critiques-gender-identity/

This is the article with the interview with Lucy Mcdonagh of the Deptford People Project (it's quite a way down this excellent, long article from Meghan Murphy). Yes, Goldsmith's is full of woke types who've opened their brains so wide their brains have fallen out. No surprise LM is about to start studying there.

IAmLurkacus · 08/09/2018 07:47

Janice’s article also absolutely brilliant. As always thank you and well done Smile

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/09/2018 07:42

They are both really good articles. Hopefully people will start taking note.

IAmLurkacus · 08/09/2018 07:41

Lucy Bannerman
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Thank you very much and well done! Lucy’s been on the case a while and taken a lot of stick on twitter.

Will read Janice’s article now and buy the times today in support.