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Does this person have a point about trans women in loos?

110 replies

HamsterToast · 07/09/2018 19:28

To be fair I have seen people say this about trans women. Thoughts?

*and no I'm not a trans troll stalking in disguise. Although that is what a trans troll stalking in disguise would say ......

Does this person have a point about trans women in loos?
OP posts:
TheBatPig · 07/09/2018 19:43

It's not as though they have to fill out a chart of which toilet/changing rooms they used for the year when applying for a grc/surgery. So its a non point as far as I can see. Lived in role...surely that means name change/clothes/whatever, not do you use the female toilets.

FloralBunting · 07/09/2018 19:40

Double binds are quite the feature of the TRA movement. That's what happens when you have an ideology that piggybacks on so many different things to get its own way.

Juells · 07/09/2018 19:39

12thGuelph

Women didn't create the problem. Men need to sort their own problems out and not demand that it's the responsibility of women.

TooMuchPenis · 07/09/2018 19:36

For the year you can avoid using a woman's shower room, or locker room, you absolutely can.

Don't give a shit about toilets but even that can usually be avoided by using single sex toilets.

If the person they had avoided single sex spaces to not upset natal women I highly doubt that would be seen as reason to not let them get their GRS

12thGuelph · 07/09/2018 19:36

Other double binds:

You still have a dick
You're mutilating yourselves

You're pantomiming femininity
You have a fucking beard

reallybadidea · 07/09/2018 19:36

Bullshit, how would anybody prove that they'd been using the women's toilets. I couldn't even do that Hmm

ItsNotUnusualToBe · 07/09/2018 19:34

Is it really a requirement of GRS to spend a year using women’s spaces? Specifically women’s spaces?

SwearyG · 07/09/2018 19:33

The lived experience doesn't mean using women's fucking spaces, it means using a woman's name, changing your title and pronouns etc. How on earth would someone know which fucking lav you'd used when you were at a doctor's appointment? Would they be told they were ineligible for surgery because once at a cinema they used the men's loo so sorry that's another year's wait. It doesn't make any sense.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 07/09/2018 19:32

No. That person is a dick.

Juells · 07/09/2018 19:31

Why is it women's problem? Why is not men's problem? Why is it absolutely taken for granted that women are responsible for the difficulties that men choose to take on, when they decide they're no longer men?