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Item on R4 PM programme today on violent trans prisoners

38 replies

GlomOfNit · 07/09/2018 17:29

And this may be the first time where I've heard this particular issue dealt face-on, on R4. Well done Dr. Nicola Williams (Fair Play for Women) for telling it like it is.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bgp8gm

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MsBeee · 07/09/2018 18:08

Bump

ErrolTheDragon · 07/09/2018 18:01

Shameful that - as many predicted - it takes abuse of vulnerable women to get women's concerns heard.

Descent · 07/09/2018 17:57

The tide is really turning. It doesn't just feel like wishful thinking any more.

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/09/2018 17:52

Does this mark a change in the BBC about how trans issues are reported?

Well, the (female) presenter actually stated that the offender still had a penis.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/09/2018 17:51

Nic was great and for once they didn't have a trans spokesperson to DARVO.

I wonder if they asked anyone? I can't see anyone wanting to try to defend this particular piece of indefensibility.

birdsdestiny · 07/09/2018 17:51

She was very good. I was very encpuraged by the whole piece. The 60 out of 125, made me stop what I was doing, I won't be the only one.

arranfan · 07/09/2018 17:48

A law correspondent was also on to outline the MoJ's legal position, and stated that 60 of the 125 transgender prisoners currently 'on roll' were sex offenders.

And yet, look at how BBC's Reality Check attempted to undermine FPFW for stating that a high percentage of transgender prisoners 'on roll' are sex offenders.

Procrastinator1 · 07/09/2018 17:43

Dr Williams did very well. BBC commentator gave the reason for the change in prison procedure in 2016 as the suicide of 4 trans women in the male estate. Not sure if just being in the male estate was the cause of the suicides. No other cases mentioned, I think.
Does this mark a change in the BBC about how trans issues are reported?

ShackUp · 07/09/2018 17:40

Dr Williams was excellent. A law correspondent was also on to outline the MoJ's legal position, and stated that 60 of the 125 transgender prisoners currently 'on roll' were sex offenders.

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/09/2018 17:40

Nic was great and for once they didn't have a trans spokesperson to DARVO.

VickyEadie · 07/09/2018 17:37

I don't want "non violent" trans prisoners in the female estate, either.

HandOff · 07/09/2018 17:31

Thanks for sharing

Ekphrasis · 07/09/2018 17:30

Will be around 20 mins into the programme.