'Transwomen are women' - our new reality or soon forgotten?

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deepwatersolo · 07/09/2018 11:06

I have read an interesting article of a gender nonconforming gay man, Connor Kelly, which in a nutshell says he will never believe that transwomen are women:

key quote.: In making a new social taboo against saying something that is true we have gone down a rabbit hole into a land of mental and linguistic gymnastics where everyone knows the truth but no one dare say it.
medium.com/@connorskellymusic/what-happened-to-our-movement-a1239d7a11d5

I have the feeling more people start saying this (including Greens), and Lisa Muggeridge has basically already declared that women in the UK have won this.

Yet others , most I would say, particularly in the establishment, stay on course and the new elected Policy Coordinator's first tweet was apparently 'transwomen are women....'
twitter.com/djandyhealey/status/1037990650040512512

So, where will society go?

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arranfan · 07/09/2018 11:22

I think Connor Kelly is overlooking that it wouldn't take many legal cases by people with an agenda to establish a climate of fear in which we self-police our language and expressions.

I'm so accustomed to Mumsnet's Guidelines now that it genuinely takes me aback to read articles in which the subjects are 'misgendered'.

doedoe90303811 · 07/09/2018 11:19

I think the consequences of the TRAs' policy wins are erasing public support/endorsement for this statement.

For example, whereas people were likely willing to accept/indulge the transgender colleague in a bad wig and dress, the likes of Hannah Mouncey, Laurel Hubbard et al, with very masculine physiques, conspicuously publicly 'taking the piss' will have consequences for those less assertive transpeople. Not to mention the nonsense of 'transgender rapists' and 'her penis'

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