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BISH - "proudly supported by....."

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Candidpeel · 06/09/2018 14:21

As @R0wantree linked to on the thread on crossing out 'gender' for 'sex' on school forms, but this deserves its own thread.

Take a look at 'BISH' website for teens.

www.bishuk.com/about-you/whats-your-gender/

Has a helpful diagram. People called 'he' and who look masculine tend to be tough, active and independent. People called 'she' and who look feminine tend to be soft, emotional and passive.

He goes into schools and youth clubs and gives training to teachers on sex and relationship education with this shit! bishtraining.com/

"Our genitals are on a spectrum in terms of: how much erectile tissue sticks out (clitorises and dicks and inbetween); where the prostate is; where the wee hole is; whether the gonads are inside or outside; vagina size. Many people are in the middle of this spectrum with how their bodies are configured."

WTAF? There is a spectrum as to where the prostate is? that makes just as much sense as saying there is a spectrum as to where the uterus is between males and females ! Confused

"Currently I’m heavily involved in the DO … project. This is a campaign to make great sex and relationships education happen in schools." www.dosreforschools.com/

BISH and the DO SRE FOR SCHOOLS project are both sponsored by Durex and DO involves serious people who know about biology like the Family Planning Association, Brook and the National Association of Headteachers.

....I hope they were just not paying attention. I think we could bring it to the attention of their twitter accounts that they are supporting the promotion of sexism and absolute biological nonsense into schools.

BISH - "proudly supported by....."
BISH - "proudly supported by....."
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HerFemaleness · 06/09/2018 21:03

Reading the link Thinybob posted and the article in the OP. Justin keeps saying you can 'choose' your gender identity. Doesn't that make him a heretic to put him at odds with Trans Orthodoxy which preaches states that your gender identity is innate, immutable, eternal and divine and fixed. Nobody chooses it, they 'discover their true authentic selves'.

Ereshkigal · 06/09/2018 21:00

Too good.''

Jon Simpson, I salute you.

As is "Justin Hancock"

Grin
FermatsTheorem · 06/09/2018 20:56

Page 32 onwards of that - wtf? That's grooming in plain sight.

HerFemaleness · 06/09/2018 20:55

One of the comments on the PankhurstEM twitter thread.

"How to Deal with Having a Small Dick" by a man named Justin? Too good.''

Jon Simpson, I salute you.

Thingybob · 06/09/2018 20:49

I feel sick looking at that BISH website and the 'educational' materials that have been produced for those that are 14+.

What kind of slimy creep peddles crap like this to our kids?

www.bishuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Bish-Activity-Book.pdf

FloralBunting · 06/09/2018 20:49

I think the feminine - takes part, and the masculine - takes charge thing is what has got on my tits the very most. I run this bloody house and family. If I'm not here, it all goes to shit.
When I started work after raising my kids, I excelled at 'taking charge' in a business environment, and I am responsible for directing not a few male people who are exceedly passive and require direction.

I am not masculine because of that. It is not a masculine trait and I am fucking sick to the back teeth of this idea that leading is a male thing.

I do not have a tiny penis, I have a uniquely brilliant clitoris and have a personality that leads others naturally. Gah, that crap is so regressive!!!!

AndhowcouldIeverrefuse · 06/09/2018 20:45

Right... okay... does it mean I can potentially make DH pregnant via with my relatively undeveloped penis clitoris and his atypically positioned and shaped vagina? run of the mill penis Wink So confused. People will end up wondering how the hell you use a condom Grin

Honestly this needs a lot of oxygen. I reckon that people like this - clearly intellectually limited and not self-aware -should go and give seminars to Science PHD students in Oxford and Cambridge and use terms like wee hole Grin

loveyouradvice · 06/09/2018 20:40

This is SO TERRIFYING....

Feminine-takes part
Masculine- takes charge...
What a load of utter shite.

How can they NOT see how regressive this is - and how incredibly sexist it is to introduce this to girls... biological girls who just want to be girls and NOT limited by their sex....

Seriously?

MinesaBottle · 06/09/2018 20:34

People?! Wtf do the fools think the F in FGM stands for?

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 06/09/2018 20:32

Some people - people! - have FGM?

Is this the new "people with a cervix"? We'd hate anyone to feel excluded from having their clitoris and vagina forcibly sliced up!

Anlaf · 06/09/2018 20:26

Pls enjoy this thread: almost as much as I'll enjoy showing DP my newly discovered micropenis later
twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1037740754200928261

MyWeaponofChoiceisWords · 06/09/2018 18:44

I can't believe I've seen that! Wtf!
Here's a scale for people who write rubbish like that:

Idiot.............................flat earther

IfNotNowThenWhen1 · 06/09/2018 18:37

Yeah, well-good question Erish Where is he??

Ereshkigal · 06/09/2018 18:36

If

Where is Chris Morris when you need him?

seafret · 06/09/2018 18:28

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFS.

Astounded. Utterly.

In addition to all the incredible PPs, what is up with the website design company being called 'HeyKiddo'. In light of recent events and discussions, and children being targeted on the internet, I don't like that at all.

IfNotNowThenWhen1 · 06/09/2018 18:24

This CAN'T be real. It's like something off The Day Today.
Kids are going to know it's a load of twaddle anyway. Ds watched a BBC film tother day about a girl who "becomes" a boy. I said "you know people can't really, actually change sex don't you?"
He replied "Dur". (I think that means he knows? )

Candidpeel · 06/09/2018 18:02

This reads like on of those badly translated guides you get to assembling a complicated toy. Where you can't figure out what they mean by flange A and slot B and the diagrams make no sense.

"some people have their genitals modified without consent, this is known as FGM".... What does the F stand for? Don't worry about that folks!.... The first part of the description also describes male circumcision, which whatever you think of the practice is not illegal.

Do you think they've written such a pile of mumbo jumbo because they've tried to describe sex and anatomy while avoiding the words Male and Female, Man, Woman, Girl and Boy?

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FlippinFumin · 06/09/2018 18:00

What he really meant to say is 'women have to prostrate themselves' instead of saying 'women themselves have a prostate'

Almost the same thing, or he thinks if he says it often enough the former will be the norm.

Anlaf · 06/09/2018 17:39

Also rather grim normalisation of genital surgery and FGM just being genital alteration which is "without consent".

Pretty sure that's not the case on law nor in the reality-based existence I occupy.

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FloralBunting · 06/09/2018 17:31

Penises and clitorises are really similar.

Practically interchangeable, I hear. Like the hair on Lego people.

BiologyIsReal · 06/09/2018 17:31

You would think it would be illegal to go into schools and teach children lies.

FermatsTheorem · 06/09/2018 17:29

Personally, being northern, I wear drainpipe jeans specially to keep my ferret in.

Anlaf · 06/09/2018 17:29

IfNotNowThenWhen1

You should self refer to learning module 2. You're assuming a "man" gendered person may have some of the attributes of "being a man or male" and as you'll learn through these easy activities.....

Excellent point though. You should not assume that a penis is a-, well, a penis - because "penises and clitorises are really similar".

FloralBunting · 06/09/2018 17:28

Genitals are such an opaque mystery. They really could look like anything. You just never know if someone is going to have a pineapple or a small whippet down there.

PositivelyPERF · 06/09/2018 17:25

How is that manipulation of the truth, not child abuse? Gaslighting children! Bastards!

There is a spectrum as to where the prostate is

They must be a spectrum to where the human head is, too, because his is well and truly up his own arse!