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MipMipMip · 06/09/2018 12:05

Because let's be honest, we'll need it.

To answer a question from the last thread.

Some of Stonewall's LGB / bullying materials are really good. How can they jeopardise this work by ignoring safeguarding in this way?

Because poor Aimee had no idea that any of it was real and believed her convicted animal abuser and had no possible reason to think he was set up and entirely honest. And anyway she had no idea of how serious the accusations were. Poor Aimee.

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Popchyk · 28/11/2018 11:31

Green Party running late with this presumably?

www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2018/09/01/green-party-announces-details-of-independent-investigation/

"The aim is to deliver the final report by mid-November and the date will be agreed once the scope and timetabling of the work are clear."

RJFirth · 01/10/2018 21:44

I know a few members had concerns about the appointment of Veritas including me.

Manderleyagain · 01/10/2018 12:01

RedToothBrush I saw that too. At least it means Private Eye will cover whatever conclusion/report comes out of the enquiry.

carceralfeminist · 23/09/2018 11:41

Gross.... My trust the Greens was already obliterated, but now I think they may actually be employing a firm that will collude with them to whitewash their atrocious shitting all over women, children and safeguarding.

ouda · 22/09/2018 20:20

Socrates11 - thanks for that youtube link - it was fantastic. So clear.

theOtherPamAyres · 21/09/2018 22:01

I got the impression that the investigation was to be narrowly focussed on Coventry Local Green party and how David Challenor came to act as an election agent. I expected that Aimee Challoner would be blamed for misjudgement but that was all.

Except it isn't over.

The new leaders take the view that transwomen are women. The old leaders enabled the rise of a form of activism that was authoritarian, dismissive and divisive. Women left the party or were hounded out.

A big question mark hangs over the credibility of the Green Party and its commitment to its supposed values. And that's not going away.

RedToothBrush · 21/09/2018 22:01

Or whose vote are they hoping to attract?

Number of votes the Green Party got in 2017
525,435

Can anyone remind me what the T population is supposed to be under Stonewall's definition?

SPOFS · 21/09/2018 21:55

Hmmmm... I get the feeling that Private Eye may be privy to some insider info here?

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 21/09/2018 21:47

Um. So they are hoping to attract the ethical vote with a skeleton like that locked up in their closet? Or whose vote are they hoping to attract?

FermatsTheorem · 21/09/2018 21:20

Fuck. Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.

How can they get away with that?

At least Private Eye have covered it.

OhHolyJesus · 21/09/2018 21:12

Right so we can expect a whitewash in Nov and have it all brushed under the carpet in time for Christmas then. Brilliant. Thanks for sharing @RedToothBrush Depressing but good to know not to get my hopes up Hmm

gendercritter · 21/09/2018 21:09

Oh dear!

RedToothBrush · 21/09/2018 20:51

Clovis @ clovis_liz
Private Eye have picked up on the Aimee Challenor investigation. It would appear that Verita who are running the investigation have a track record of cover ups.

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Socrates11 · 15/09/2018 21:59

"The Green Party does not ‘stand up for democracy’, but on the contrary, in permitting a 20-year-old Equalities Spokesperson to propel a misogynistic agenda and to insult women with impunity if they dare question queer ideology, the Party has spectacularly failed to implement its own declared aims, namely dignity, equality, social justice and human rights for all."

Tis a cracking quote. I listened to an interview (posted on Twitter from YouTube) the other day with Shelia Jeffries who explained the history of queer theory and how it has been in opposition to the goals of what I would call radical feminism. Porn, prostitution and public sex seemed to be the basis of disagreement.

I had not understood what queer theory was or what it stood for so it was a real eye opener.

Hope link works

CrackpotsArePots · 15/09/2018 21:52

With Sport England Chairman, Nick Bitel, marking the launch of #ThisGirlCan, the campaign to get more women participating in sport – Wednesday 7 January 2015

Picture of Edward Lord from the Gallerylinked to above by NotAnotherFeckingMuftiDay

Oh the irony. Girls won't want to participate in sport if they are being thrashed by people with a penis...

NotAnotherFeckingMuftiDay · 15/09/2018 21:24

@CesiraAndEnrico apologies for @ing you but I wondered if you were still gathering links between the main players.

Have you seen this? I saw it a while ago on EL's website but it didn't mean anything to me until Bercow refused the UQ from David Davis this week.
edwardlord.org/gallery/

BeyondAnOmnishambles · 12/09/2018 16:34

Yeah date is on the link. Though it's still a brilliant statement

doedoe90303811 · 12/09/2018 15:44

is that statement not 2 weeks old?

theOtherPamAyres · 12/09/2018 15:10

Filia has published a powerful statement about the Green Party.

Interestingly, the statement puts the blame on the party leadership for enabling the rise of a trans activist steeped in queer ideology. It concludes:

^The Green Party does not ‘stand up for democracy’, but on the contrary, in permitting a 20-year-old Equalities Spokesperson to propel a misogynistic agenda and to insult women with impunity if they dare question queer ideology, the Party has spectacularly failed to implement its own declared aims, namely dignity, equality, social justice and human rights for all.

Dr. Heather Brunskell-Evans
FiLiA Spokeswoman^

filia.org.uk/news/2018/8/29/gu9weovvkuv6bu9f368v5ossflavcw

Facknats · 09/09/2018 21:27

BeyondAnAmnishambles:

I am too, which is how I recognise it :)

Carrrotsandcauliflower · 09/09/2018 21:17

Just saying

Carrrotsandcauliflower · 09/09/2018 21:16

Ricky Gervais (who I love.) is on twitter asking for hot topics he can bring up in his recording for his comedy show #Deadlysirius

theOtherPamAyres · 09/09/2018 17:50

I am still trying to find out whether Sahra identifes as disabled as well as L, G, B, T, woman of colour, but I'm very sure she must.

Doedoe - I think you are on the same wavelength as me Hmm. I was thinking out loud about how many of the Green Party trans/non-binary movers and shakers say that they are also disabled (Clare Phipps, Hannah Clare, Molly Arthurs, Lucas North).

I am intrigued about your preliminary research into the Trans S Taylor. With an aversion to heterosexual women, coupled with a determination to clear them out, and clear evidence of targetting female academics for sabotage - well, that sounds like just the kind of ambitious Green Party Executive for the job of Equality and Diversity co-ordinator.

I suspect that the GP is keeping very quiet about this new piece of information about their Executive's involvement in silencing women - in the hope that no-one linked Taylor to the GP.

OlennasWimple · 09/09/2018 16:17

the one positive I can think of from the slew of recent events is that at least they happened before the GRA consultation closed, so we are able to reference them in our responses and so they can influence policy makers and politicians as they decide how to proceed

LangCleg · 09/09/2018 15:48

It's really rather simple - hands up who thinks a trans furry adult baby identity is the same person as a transsexual?

Nobody.

Quite frankly, I'm not interested in the demands of male people with multiple paraphilias because those are the very male people who present increased risk. They can just fuck right off to the far side of fuck.

I can have respectful discussions with transsexuals even though we may not agree on everything. Apples and oranges.

The number of recent incidents (Bradley, Challenors, White, et al) should have made this blindingly obvious to everybody. Even the most useless and pusillanimous of our legislators.