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Razor blades and stickers again

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HamsterToast · 05/09/2018 20:39

A twitter account is saying that stickers in Manchester Oxford Road station have razor blades behind them put there by TERFS. If you are terfblocked you won't be able to view.

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TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 10/09/2018 16:52

Two huge own goals today in the pathetic attempt to spread this obvious lie.

  1. Somebody tweeted that a UK train company was warning all its staff about razors behind stickers placed there by 'TERFs'. The wonderful @mrkhtake2 has set to work to contact every train company in the UK and most have now confirmed that this is nothing to do with them nor would they ever tweet out this kind of warning.
  1. Another person tweeted a picture of a nasty finger cut, claiming to have got it when removing a sticker with a razor behind it. However:
(a) Tweeter claims to be white in other tweets, hand clearly not a white person's hand. (b) Cut nowhere near you'd expect it to be, given you'd peel off a sticker with the finger tips. (c) Cut looked nothing like a cut from a razor. (d -best bit) Picture turns out to be easily reverse Google searched - was a picture of the finger of a performer called Frank Ocean, all over the internet when he cut it badly a few years ago.

Tweeter has been reported to the police. Given this statement, I hope they take action. media.btp.police.uk/r/15860/sticker_claims_-manchester_oxford_road

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arranfan · 10/09/2018 16:32

Thanks for that, EeebyMum - I wonder if there's any chance there's somebody who is about to be interviewed by the Police for a hoax?

I wonder if anyone not blocked by Erin has brought it to Erin's attention?

littlbrowndog · 09/09/2018 23:02

BABY TOOL. WELCOME 💐💐🍺🍺

arranfan · 09/09/2018 22:51

Maybe we should ask for a new viper emoji?

I embrace the viper emoji and wonder what a MN scarf with hives of mums and vipers would look like. (How did you do the viper?)

In other news, my family and I were swapping the urban myths around razor blades and stickers. However, one relative was working in Liverpool in the early 80s and wondered if some of the razor mythology arose from the actions of Joe Owens of the BNP who was imprisoned for this in 1983:

Owens was eventually overtaken by the actions and thinking of his extreme associates. In 1983, “a silly thing to do,” as he admits, was sending “envelopes lined with razor blades to prominent members of Liverpool’s Jewish community.”

I took the decision not to link because of the source but for anyone who wants to check, Google will retrieve the text from the above quotations.

Icantreachthepretzels · 09/09/2018 01:12

It's way better that you vent your emotions at us than at them Truth ... we have empathy - they do not Smile

Truthmytruth · 09/09/2018 00:59

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Randomdrunkwoman · 09/09/2018 00:46

Think I’ll go back to my old name. I am not angry at you. I’m angry at the system. I took it out on you and that was wrong. I do think that this is not the best place for me though so I will bow out. Obviously I’m just too raw and emotional and this isn’t helpful. All you on here are looking after all of us. I misdirected my anger. You are not the people I should be angry with. Sorry again Turph

Turph · 09/09/2018 00:41

Sorry to you too, Randomdrunkwoman
Night all

Randomdrunkwoman · 09/09/2018 00:39

*sorry Turph.

PineappleSunrise · 09/09/2018 00:38

Well said, pretzels. Flowers

We're going to have to watch ourselves, you know. With all these flowers flying around, we're not going to come across as very viperly or evil. Maybe we should ask for a new viper emoji?

🐍

FloralBunting · 09/09/2018 00:37

Fwiw, truthmytruth, I'm in a similar situation to yourself, and I totally understand the mamabear protective rage.

But if we are going to stop these people getting claws into our kids, we must be smart and channel that rage into useful outlets. Giving vent to frustrated anger in a rant on here just makes you vulnerable, and TRAs are always on the hunt for an exposed jugular.

You want the best for your child. I think all GC posters here are right with you, that's the motivation for all of us. No one GC is your enemy. Down tools for a breath and find some balance because we are truly on your side here.

Turph · 09/09/2018 00:37

Icantreachthepretzels thanks, you put that much better than I could.

Randomdrunkwoman · 09/09/2018 00:31

Yeah. You are right. Thanks.

Icantreachthepretzels · 09/09/2018 00:22

I think Turph's recent posts have been fair and supportive.

I empathise with your pain Truthmytruth though I won't pretend I understand what you're going through - but the TRAs are masters of deception and will twist your own words against you. When speaking directly to them (irritating as it is) you (general you not specific you) have to be really careful that you don't end up giving them ammo. What you have posted could easily be screenshotted and used the way Turph suggested.
If your child is able to access TRA twitter and blogs on line - they may even come across a version of your words themselves - and begin to see you as the enemy.
I believe the truth of your situation is how you describe it. I agree with what you said ... but I agree with Turph that screeds like that ultimately don't help. In a world where reality is twisted - we have to give them as little as possible, as it will be used against us.
They can rage at us laughing at them ... but when we show real vulnerability that gives them something to mock. And when we show anger - they pretend it is literal violence and hock it around twitter looking for sympathy.
I think Turph was simply trying to warn you of the dangers of posting raw emotions at reality vampires, in a sisterly and supportive way.

Flowers I hope things get better for you soon Truth and that you are successful in helping your child navigate all this.
Flowers for Turph too.

Randomdrunkwoman · 08/09/2018 23:58

I’ve admitted nothing you are being presumptious and I am using irony But if it gives you a get out clause go for it.

Randomdrunkwoman · 08/09/2018 23:52

New name new me. You have labelled me as this. I’m not passive aggressive. I’m livid at your response but I don’t need you to try and make me feel bad for protecting my child so I’m calling you out as unsupportive. Gonna get the wine, vodka, gin , whiskey on now as I’m just a randomer with no idea. However, just to let it be known. I am living this nightmare for over a year and I don’t think your response was helpful. I don’t consider myself as a random drunken mumsnetter but you obviously do. I am shocked at you’re terminology. Really shocked. So I bid you good night and I will bow out of this forum as a parent’s voice is being demonised once again. But before I go. This is my fight and I have as much right as you to say my piece. I was also afraid to upset the TRAs because of the backlash. This should not stop us. As soon as I question it or as you say post aggressive rants I am vilified by the people who I thought were supportive. This is why parents of trans kids can’t win. We say too much and we are ridiculed. We don’t say anything and people assume we are happy with our kids transition. It’s a no win situation. Any wonder parents go underground when they are made out to be drunken randomers.

FloralBunting · 08/09/2018 23:47

PineappleSunrise, it's one of the better puns I've seen in a while.

PineappleSunrise · 08/09/2018 23:44

"A hive of mums and villany." I like it. Like an update on the Vipers thing.

Turph · 08/09/2018 23:43

Truthmytruth You've admitted you're posting drunk for the second night running, you disagree with my point of view (fair enough) you tell me your posts are "measured", your style is "conversational" , goading TRAs is "intentional", you've "usurped the fight" and I'm apparently "freaked out" by the fact you're a mother. On mumsnet.
Basically I think your posts do more harm than good, you think the opposite.
I think we will just have to agree to disagree Smile

Turph · 08/09/2018 23:33

since you haven’t got back to me your post before just says"thanks for your support". I assumed you were being passive aggressive. What did you want a reply to? I'm happy to talk to anyone.

Truthmytruth · 08/09/2018 23:17

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arranfan · 08/09/2018 22:51

Where does datalounge.com fit into this new binary system?

We're going to need a bigger binary system.

Or adopt Jeffrey's caste system.

BettyDuMonde · 08/09/2018 22:47

Where does datalounge.com fit into this new binary system?