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The myth about lesbians and rates of domestic abuse

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PimmsnLemonade · 05/09/2018 08:09

This has just come up in another thread and is a favourite of the TRAs/MRAs to deflect from male violence and to argue that female-only safe spaces don't matter because "you still let those awful abusive lesbians in".

This is the research from which they get their 'evidence' - www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/181867.pdf It's on page 30 and there are two paragraphs to it, the second of which they never seem to have got round to reading:

The survey found that same-sex cohabitants reported significantly more intimate partner violence than did opposite-sex cohabitants. Among women, 39.2 percent of the same-sex cohabitants and 21.7 percent of the opposite sex cohabitants reported being raped, physically assaulted, and/or stalked by a marital/cohabiting partner at some time in their lifetime. Among men, the comparable figures are 23.1 percent and 7.4 percent (exhibit 8).

At first glance, these findings suggest that both male and female same-sex couples experience more intimate partner violence than do opposite sex couples. However, a comparison of intimate partner victimization rates among same-sex and opposite-sex cohabitants by perpetrator gender produced some interesting findings: 30.4 percent of same-sex cohabiting women reported being victimized by a male partner, whereas 11.4 percent reported being victimized by a female partner. Thus, same-sex cohabiting women were nearly three times more likely to report being victimized by a male partner than by a female partner. Moreover, opposite-sex cohabiting women were nearly twice as likely to report being victimized by a male partner than were same-sex cohabiting women by a female partner(20.3 percent and 11.4 percent).

Of course, as more and more heterosexual males 'become' lesbians it will become increasingly difficult to disprove these statements as it will be reported and recorded as abuse committed by women against women.

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PimmsnLemonade · 05/09/2018 08:50

Does anyone know how to search directly for a poster's history? I've always just done a standard search and seen what comes up but I'm not finding anything for AllDayBreakfast.

I'm just interested in the posting history of someone who comes on a thread which refutes the popular MRA/TRA "facts" about lesbians by reporting that anecdotally all the lesbians they have ever known have been aggressive, violent, sexual predators.

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Melanippe · 05/09/2018 08:49

That would appear to be the case Neolara.

thatdamnwoman · 05/09/2018 08:48

So you don't want to rely on anecdotal evidence but you post twice to make sure we all know that some lesbians behave badly, eh?

Neolara · 05/09/2018 08:46

"30.4 percent of same-sex cohabiting women reported being victimized by a male partner,"

I don't understand. What does this mean? Are 30.4% of lesbians victimised by their ex male partners?

AllDayBreakfast · 05/09/2018 08:39

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SweetheartNeckline · 05/09/2018 08:35

Someone quoted the "lesbian relationships most violent" at me on the Mixed Sex Scout Camp thread (as they were alluding to lesbians should not being allowed in female tents due to risks / voyeurism which I called lesbophobia). I was a bit blindsided by it tbh and had assumed it was because heterosexual violence was under reported, especially due tl perceived risks of DC being removed by SS, but this makes much more sense. Thank you.

redexpat · 05/09/2018 08:29

Interesting thing statistics. The detail can tell a whole other story.

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