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Who's going to the WEP Conference this weekend? Fancy a thread?

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RhymesWithOrange · 04/09/2018 22:22

I'm the only person I know going. I would be interested to get others MNers thoughts on the conference and the agenda as it happens.

And of course the emergency debate.

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SPOFS · 08/09/2018 07:20

Will the emergency self-I'd thing be only 3 minutes then?

Cwenthryth · 08/09/2018 07:20

Morning, sorry phone issues last night!

I wouldn’t say elephant in the room, so much as there are a million and one other things that women (and a smattering of men) wanted to talk about last night (see Rhyme’s summaries of people speaking at the open mic). People were raising issues dear to them that were not being spoken about anywhere else, so I think there was a general feeling there as no need to talk about GRA then. It’s on the agenda for the main conference, it is going to come up! Last night was a wonderful atmosphere. So much passion, inspiration and support in the room. Connections being made and small cogs whirring.

There is a fear of trouble. I’m not quite sure what kind of trouble - someone mentioned concerns about protestors turning up outside, or people generally being nasty to each other in debates. Also unclear whether this trouble is expected from TRAs or gender critical activists or both. In Sandi’s opening speech she called for tolerance and spoke along the lines of if you disagree with someone, good, society would be weird if we all agreed, if you’re angry, great - channel that, constructively, and do something with it. But tolerance, respect etc at conference.

The people I’ve chatted with about GRA (mostly pro from what I can tell, but people are guarded) all seem content with the idea of the emergency motion allowing special debates, and then the issue going to consultation with the wider membership. So fingers crossed that’s how it goes.

NotMeOhNo · 08/09/2018 02:16

The elephant in the room, it would seem.

LizzieSiddal · 07/09/2018 22:29

The Self ID debate will be very interesting.

RhymesWithOrange · 07/09/2018 22:25

Fairly strict 3 minute time limit for each speaker. But it's amazing what you can cover in 3 minutes!

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LizzieSiddal · 07/09/2018 22:18

Don’t blame you Rhymes.

LizzieSiddal · 07/09/2018 22:17

They’re cramming a lot in Smile how do they cover so many subjects so quickly?

RhymesWithOrange · 07/09/2018 21:45

It's all very good. Eloquent, passionate women, many unaccustomed to public speaking, but getting up and doing it anyway. If the trans thing wasn't a thing I'd be very in love with this party.

I'll do five more speakers before ducking out (sorry, I'm knackered!)

Rape - particularly acquaintance rape, women not reporting or being believed

Teenage girls getting dick pics from their peers, and how to get more women into grassroots politics

"Total feminism", smashing pre determined roles based on sex (candidate for party position)

Equal parenting and care giving (another candidate for party position)

No fault divorce and gender pay gap

It's emptying out a bit now so I'm going to duck out. Back at 9am tomorrow.

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Ereshkigal · 07/09/2018 21:44

Sounds like some great speeches though.

Ereshkigal · 07/09/2018 21:43

Ugh 🙄

RNBrie · 07/09/2018 21:40

Someone talking about period poverty did refer to "people with a vagina".... interesting....

RhymesWithOrange · 07/09/2018 21:26

Next speakers:

Budget cuts in schools and disproportionate impact on mothers, girls, children with SEN, families on low income, immigrant families

Under representation of women and girls in STEM learning and teaching

Harrowing personal story about devastating effects of abusive relationship and losing access of a baby because of it, making a point about access to legal aid

Race and identity; systemic racism

A policy committee candidate talking about inspiring women.

Children in care - problem of them having to leave at 18 - asking for parity with foster care which can go on to 21

Another candidate, this time for equal representation. She's written a great poem called "Dicks off the table". Could not agree more

I might have to go go bed soon . There's no end in sight and I'm shattered from a mega long drive.

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LizzieSiddal · 07/09/2018 21:11

It all sounds very good so far. Wish I was there!

RhymesWithOrange · 07/09/2018 20:59

I think there is about 400 people here. Mostly women of course, good range of ages and geography, pretty overwhelmingly white.

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RhymesWithOrange · 07/09/2018 20:57

@RNBrie hello Smile must work out how to identify each other

No GC talk yet. But no mention of the T word at all yet, and the word "women" used without qualification.

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RhymesWithOrange · 07/09/2018 20:55

Next lot of speakers:

Positive stories of inclusion and support of disabled people in WEP.

Equal pay.

Inequality in healthcare; recognition for carers (candidate for party position)

General lament on state of politics; levels of apathy amongst young women in particular; poor state of main political parties

Sexual violence and sexual harassment in schools (some shocking stats on epidemic of sexual violence in schools)

(The bar's also doing a roaring trade, it's not all business!)

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arranfan · 07/09/2018 20:55

RNBrie - if ever there was a time for a secret Mumsnet scarf knot of recognition, this is it. :)

RNBrie · 07/09/2018 20:45

There's a group here who have fair play for women leaflets which will be handed out tomorrow. I'm in their WhatsApps group but I haven't found them yet.

SPOFS · 07/09/2018 20:43

@RhymesWithOrange

Is it busy?

Have you spoken to anyone about GC issues yet?

RNBrie · 07/09/2018 20:42

I'm a WEP member at conference. Waves to @Cwenthryth and @RhymesWithOrange**

RhymesWithOrange · 07/09/2018 20:37

Next few speakers:

Nice story about ancestral suffragette

Women specific healthcare and medical treatment (lots of talk about women-specific biology (another candidate for a party position)

Equal pay

Ending VAWG (another candidate for a party position)

Ending period poverty

Failures in maternity care

Sport and it's role in building confidence in girls and women; equality in sport, sports coverage

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Ereshkigal · 07/09/2018 20:22

Me too.

LizzieSiddal · 07/09/2018 20:20

Thank you for the thread. I will be following it.

RhymesWithOrange · 07/09/2018 20:14

First few speakers' topics:

DoE consultation on sex education open until 7 November

Person standing for party position on VAWG

Climate change and the environment

PhD student doing research on how feminists use Twitter/social media when talking about VAWG

Cross border families, parental separation in the UK.

Equality of treatment in the media

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UpstartCrow · 07/09/2018 20:00

Courage calls!

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