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First there was Jess Bradley, then the Challenors, now Edward Lord...

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PimmsnLemonade · 01/09/2018 15:10

No direct accusations against Edward Lord (the 'non-binary' freemason who is trying to remove single-sex spaces in London) but here he is describing as a "hero" a man who was a member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) and is a continuing "advocate" for paedophiles:

twitter.com/edwardlord/status/958632082762321922

www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10948796/Paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males.html

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placemats · 03/09/2018 09:57

Why have they all suddenly started to delete their twitter feed?

Is there something I should know?

stillathing · 03/09/2018 09:54

*Gavin De Becker's work on sexual predators has noted that when approaching a potential victim and putting a scenario in play the predator will talk a lot - this is to jam the victim's thought process - no time to assess 'where did that men come from', 'is it safe to let him follow me to my car/front door' 'where is my drink on the bar'.

i've been mugged by a group of men using this method

ThatDoctorEM · 03/09/2018 09:51

Anlaf You raise a really significant point.

Clever this innit. You spend all your time fretting that you might use the wrong word, so no time to engage your brain...

Gavin De Becker's work on sexual predators has noted that when approaching a potential victim and putting a scenario in play the predator will talk a lot - this is to jam the victim's thought process - no time to assess 'where did that men come from', 'is it safe to let him follow me to my car/front door' 'where is my drink on the bar'.

haXXor · 03/09/2018 00:02

Sadly no, EL wasn't on Politwoops. Anyone with screencaps, hang onto them. Same goes for AC. They don't get to rewrite history.

haXXor · 02/09/2018 23:42

NothingOnTellyAgain

Jane Fae / John Ozimek. Yes, someone who likes looking at women whilst they are subjected to lasting injury, and who also wants to demolish same-sex provisions and safeguarding by rendering same-sex exemptions meaningless.

That's six so far. I suspect that collectively we are very close to unearthing something big, hence why Hailey "Captain Binbag"* Heartless is trying to get Mumsnet shut down by all nefarious means necessary.

We need to capture this vital dot-joining because of that threat. Archive.is doesn't work on Mumsnet threads (I suspect that Mumsnet have configured their website to block requests from Archive.is) so I will see about making backups to add some redundancy to R0wan's.

  • HT to the tweep who came up with that in response to the PVC dress worn by HH in that "make you cum" goady video.
haXXor · 02/09/2018 23:25

Really hoping EL was tracked by Politwoops...

SwearyG · 02/09/2018 23:18

Actually strike that. There are lots of accounts and it is late.

SwearyG · 02/09/2018 23:16

Just seen on twitter that Mr Lord has been on a deleting spree of all his tweets from 2018. All the ones calling women names, all the ones celebrating trans rights, all the ones showing who he is.

I wonder why that might be Hmm

ErrolTheDragon · 02/09/2018 23:02

Apples and oranges. Not harmless, because they've provided cover for the others unfortunately.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/09/2018 20:56

makes the likes of IW >> women who dont' shave their legs are dirty >> and PL >> getting catcalled is awesome and women/girls who don't like it are stuck up dried up btches >> seem innocent sweet and harmless in comparison

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/09/2018 20:55

And Lord's partner who has collabortaed closely with a couple of queer theorists who see "intergenerational sexuality" as a sadly misunderstood sexuality and the people who wish for such encounters as at the bottom of the oppression heap in a hopelessly prudish society.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/09/2018 20:53

haXXor

Don't forget the person who was a (the?) leading advocate in the UK for legalising extreme porn (bestiality, content with acts that caused lasting injury, can't remember the rest).

theOtherPamAyres · 02/09/2018 20:50

There is a perfectly reasonable defence for trans people wearing nappies in adulthood that I have just invented

Men who dress as women have an obsession with 'tucking in' their lady penises. According to various Trans Style Guides, duct tape and elastoplast are the go-to products if you are going out in a mini-skirt or tight dress.

But what if you're the kind of girl who hasn't shaved her face and legs today and just wants to lounge in a comfy onesie? You can't go commando, heaven forbid. Cue the nappy with an adjustable waist band and elastic legs (fanfare). Ahhhhh, that's better.

Now, how much shall I ask the Adult Babies to donate to Fairplay for Women, for coming up with that watertight (see what I did there?) story?

haXXor · 02/09/2018 20:47
  • L Madigan claiming to be Savile's apprentice.
  • S Faye thinking schoolgirls should "suck dick and get tits early".
  • J Bradley flashing and reblogging images of child-aged cartoon characters being raped.
  • A Challenor dating a man who dresses as a baby for sexual purposes, despite having a father who dressed as a child to rape a little girl. There is no way that AC is ignorant of said lover's fetish and, even if AC doesn't participate, AC has remained within the relationship and so endorses that fetish (in the "what you walk past without challenging is what you accept" sense of endorse).
  • Edward Lord endorsing a paedophile apologist who was in PIE "for research purposes" (pull the other one, it has bells on).

All the above have sought to undermine single-sex provision, which is used to safeguard women, girls, and boys too young to use men's facilities alone.

All the above have, as listed, expressed or demonstrated worrying sexual attitudes or behaviours with regard to actual children or men with fetished ideas of children.

"Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern." We have FIVE prominent TRAs demonstrate or express worrying attitudes about children whilst undermining the safeguarding function of single-sex spaces. This is not a coincidence, this is an irrefutable pattern.

And only FWR are refusing to be wilfully blind to this. No wonder they want to shut us down.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/09/2018 18:19

Uh huh. But oddly enough, apparently it's ok to completely ignore women's preferred terms and meanings of words. You'd be forgiven for thinking there were two classes of citizen.

hackmum · 02/09/2018 18:07

"The uncertainty raised by changing language can feel very threatening to some people...some respond to the defensiveness they feel by completely ignoring preferred terms and continuing to use the language they feel comfortable with".

The horror! Imagine people using the terms they're comfortable with rather than the terms dictated to them by the thought police.

Ereshkigal · 02/09/2018 17:36

YY. I hear the customer is demanding sissy pink or big boy blue

How about a lovely pale pink and blue combo for their trans fans based on their iconic flag?

terryleather · 02/09/2018 17:10

I'm beginning to think we might need to install a FWR version of this...

First there was Jess Bradley, then the Challenors, now Edward Lord...
NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/09/2018 16:52

Can you imagine it

walks into office
"Good morning Nothing!"
"Ah - can I ask you what you mean today by good? and also by morning?"
"yes of course - but first I need to check - should have checked before, should I call you Nothing? Also, can I ask what you mean today by "can" "I" and "ask" and "what".....etc etc etc

ErrolTheDragon · 02/09/2018 16:10

Ah, the Humpty Dumpty theory of language.

Anlaf · 02/09/2018 14:45

hm. Looks like Meg John has also co-authored this book "How to Understand Your Gender" www.amazon.co.uk/Understand-Iantaffi-Meg-John-Foreword-Bergman/dp/1785927469?tag=mumsnetforum-21

Chapter 1 Section 1 tantalisingly called WHAT WORDS MEAN does not live up to promise.

So mumsnetters, if you are uncertain what words mean:
-Check with the group or person concerned...
-Be prepared to practise as much as possible using the language they've asked you to use...
-Keep checking in to what? if you think language use may have shifted over time
...
"The uncertainty raised by changing language can feel very threatening to some people...some respond to the defensiveness they feel by completely ignoring preferred terms and continuing to use the language they feel comfortable with... Some folk go even further and argue that it's wrong for people to invent new language for their experiences or to change the meaning of words over time."

Clever this innit. You spend all your time fretting that you might use the wrong word, so no time to engage your brain...

BraveAndStunning · 02/09/2018 13:45

The Manics had it

LemonJello · 02/09/2018 13:42

Maybe that'll be the next campaign, to force the makers of incontinence pants to redesign their packaging to be more adult baby friendly.

YY. I hear the customer is demanding sissy pink or big boy blue Wink

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 02/09/2018 13:42

Don't you miss the News of the World sometimes?

I never thought I'd say it but right now, yup!

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 02/09/2018 13:41

I used to think ebay's 'well worn shoes' was enough.

i need to get some fresh air and do some gardening.

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