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First there was Jess Bradley, then the Challenors, now Edward Lord...

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PimmsnLemonade · 01/09/2018 15:10

No direct accusations against Edward Lord (the 'non-binary' freemason who is trying to remove single-sex spaces in London) but here he is describing as a "hero" a man who was a member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) and is a continuing "advocate" for paedophiles:

twitter.com/edwardlord/status/958632082762321922

www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10948796/Paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males.html

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carceralfeminist · 01/09/2018 15:52

Blanchard features in that article!

After a fierce battle in the American Psychiatric Association (APA), which produces it, a proposal to include hebephilia as a disorder in the new edition of the manual has been defeated. The proposal arose because puberty in children has started ever earlier in recent decades and as a result, it was argued, the current definition of paedophilia – pre-pubertal sexual attraction – missed out too many young people.

Ray Blanchard, professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto, who led the APA’s working group on the subject, said that unless some other way was found of encompassing hebephilia in the new manual, that was “tantamount to stating that the APA’s official position is that the sexual preference for early pubertal children is normal”.

Prof Blanchard was in turn criticised by a speaker at the Cambridge conference, Patrick Singy, of Union College, New York, who said hebephilia would be abused as a diagnosis to detain sex offenders as “mentally ill” under US “sexually violent predator” laws even after they had completed their sentences.

TimeLady · 01/09/2018 15:52

Trying to understand Queer theory via Google - but I'm struggling. Can anyone offer a brief/simple explanation, please?

averylongtimeago · 01/09/2018 15:51

It makes me sick that this sort of thing is being normalised, what next I wonder? How long before safeguarding children is banned because its ....phobic?

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/09/2018 15:48

Oh my fuck what was that I just read on dr em twitter link

R0wantrees · 01/09/2018 15:47

I am concerned about this, does Lord agree with gender queer theory I wonder.

Edward Lord's partner Dr Meg-John Barker wrote the BACP Best Practice guide which is strongly based on Queer Theory.

discussed on recent threads and currently under review by BACP following challenges.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3350668-The-British-Association-for-Counselling-and-Psychotherapy-have-come-up-with-Definition-of-woman

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3339137-BACP-Gender-Sexual-and-Relationship-Diversity-by-Dr-Meg-John-Barker

LemonJello · 01/09/2018 15:41

Here’s a screenshot for posterity.

First there was Jess Bradley, then the Challenors, now Edward Lord...
Procrastinator1 · 01/09/2018 15:39

Sorry, this twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1035445537011630080

I rather think this thread is going to go disappear.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/09/2018 15:37

Also stunned amazed and surprised.

On a separate note
Most women and girls have very efficient "weirdy creep /perve" radars, that they start to develop from puberty, that are sending out top volume defcon one alerts quite a lot when reading about some topics these days.

Procrastinator1 · 01/09/2018 15:37

I am concerned about this, does Lord agree with gender queer theory I wonder.

hackmum · 01/09/2018 15:31

Quelle fucking surprise.

LemonJello · 01/09/2018 15:30

My my.

Just like gendercritter, I am also shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

VickyEadie · 01/09/2018 15:24

It's been clear to me from the beginning that some men (NB Mumsnet - I am not saying these are trans people) with extremely dubious, dangerous intent are slyly using the push for self-id as a Trojan horse.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/09/2018 15:23

Note - there are two links in the OP, I didn't spot the twitter one immediately so didn't get what Lord had to to with the Telegraph piece (from a year ago if anyone is confused by the references to cases current at the time).

Yes... seems like a strange 'hero' for anyone to espouse.

NotTerfNorCis · 01/09/2018 15:21

'childhood’ itself is not a biological given but an historically produced social object.”

Biology as a social construct, again.

gendercritter · 01/09/2018 15:12

You have shocked me Wink

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