Aimee suspended on no fault basis

Operation Trans MP is extremely important. A trans MP would instantly and automatically be on the Women and Equalities Committee. They would have influence and reach way beyond the influence and reach of any normal single MP.

An example in the context of this thread might be Aimee Challenor's involvement in promoting / defending the CRUK cervical smear campaign for 'people with cervixes'

June 15th 2018 Aimee Challoner on RT:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHEMGZjiStc

And cross - organisation. It's all very tin-foil-hattery, but it has crossed my mind a few times that sometimes it seems almost as if there is a co-ordinated attempt to put as many TRAs into positions of power in as many influential places as possible.

From discussions on many threads here, this certainly seems to have happened / is happening. What has been striking is that in many appointments, the TRA often has no prior specialist knowledge in the area or wider diversity concerns. Whether the appointment is in Sports, NHS, Education, Media etc they have become very influential in the creation of policies which whilst primarilly intentioned to assert trans rights, also have a significant impact on the nature of services provided to all service users, customers, public etc.

Bit Trojan horse like isn’t it? It’s what happened in the Birmingham schools but on a national scale.

It may also need to consider possible cross-party networks too

And cross - organisation. It's all very tin-foil-hattery, but it has crossed my mind a few times that sometimes it seems almost as if there is a co-ordinated attempt to put as many TRAs into positions of power in as many influential places as possible.

The investigation needs to look into the Challenor's network within the party.

It may also need to consider possible cross-party networks too.

This is an absolute fiasco.

It is perhaps interesting that the Global Greens LGBT+ network have not, as far as I know, suspended Aimee from her position, or made any statement.

It's hard to respond to that without a mouthful of expletives.

The Green Party machine is in utter disarray and they desperately need to start talking to each other before putting out statements as so far each statement contradicts the last.

There is an almighty scrabble of damage limitation and they are only making it worse by their shambolic reactive response.

Obviously whether Aimee is trans shouldn’t come into it. But obviously people will make the link because her father was playing dress up as a little girl.
You don’t need much intelligence to start asking questions as to what was going on and normalised for Aimee at a young age.
If she had any inkling of the abuse It may not have been abnormal to her. Aimee seems to have an inability to see that the animal abuse (let alone child abuse) is incompatible with associating her father with the Green Party.
If she wasn’t trans I think newspapers and the bbc wouldnt hesitate to report more transparently on this.

Interestingly information on the committee members was present in Sept 2017...

<a class="break-all" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20170926142219/greenpartywomen.org.uk/people/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20170926142219/greenpartywomen.org.uk/people/

The statement by Green Party women is extraordinary, they are "supporting" Aimee against their own party. It would be very interesting to know who exactly wrote that statement - I would not be surprised if the leadership of Green Party women is in part, or completely, trans identified

According to their website greenpartywomen.org.uk/people/ :
The Equality and Diversity Coordinator(s) who sits on GPEx (our national Executive Committee) is/are also automatically a member of our Committee unless they are are a man

So Aimee would have been on the Green Women Committee. Interestingly despite a link at the top of the page that to "details of our current Green Party Women committee and how to get in touch with them" there are no details, just a contact email

Also I don't think Aimee would accept a suspension without having some control over the way the 'investigation' is done, the way the suspension is presented ('no fault'), and I suspect Aimee has insisted that they have some control over the final result too. I doubt they would be quiet about their displeasure otherwise, they are a bully used to getting their own way and have some influential and aggressive supporters who will back them up.

Adding the 'no fault' phrase was probably the only way they could convince Aimee to accept a suspension.

I had been thinking about parallels with the West case for some time now but had been reluctant to post as have been deleted in the past for mentioning (in a more general context) Savile and hiding in plain sight...interesting that now many comparisons are being made to Savile and no deletions.

I agree with you about parallels pach. It's why I am pointing the finger in the direction of the Green Party rather than at Aimee.

I read that interview with the Wests' daughter this morning, it's interesting and sad how manipulated by her mother she was - you could draw parallels and conclude that AC is still being groomed by DC. It should have raised massive red flags that AC was so obsessed with attacking women and removing safeguarding. Those charges were made in 2015. No excuses.

womanformallyknownaswoman Rose West certainly came from an abusive background but Myra Hindley did not. Her family were perfectly normal respectable working class people, and there's no evidence she was abused as a child. It's one of the baffling things about her case, and hardest to comprehend. Sometimes people are just evil.

The investigation needs to look into the Challenor's network within the party. That women's statement comes pretty close to admitting they knew about the charges: In its support of Aimee the Party should have made clear that she was in care/supported independent living and therefore not living at home during the period the police have stated the crimes took place.

Anyone who did know and kept quiet is even more culpable than Aimee in my opinion. A child (albeit an adult one) being in denial about / covering up for a parent is one thing. Other party members had no family ties to mess with their judgment and, if they did collude they should not only be concerned about letting down Aimee. Think on GreenWomen if you're reading.

The statement by Green Party women is extraordinary, they are "supporting" Aimee against their own party.

They are treating Aimee like women treat a mentally ill fragile young man. Yet another example of how nobody actually deep down believes that TWAW.

Green party women are undermining an investigation...

What about Tina?

The statement by Green Party women is extraordinary, they are "supporting" Aimee against their own party. It would be very interesting to know who exactly wrote that statement - I would not be surprised if the leadership of Green Party women is in part, or completely, trans identified.
Hopefully the leadership of other parties will see this and realise that it is easy to invite the camel into the tent but a lot less easy to get them out when they start destroying the place.

Aimee definitely knew about the animal abuse conviction though? That should have been enough for her to avoid him.

This is a real problem. It's dangerous.

I know a family (very well) who were affected by this (a similar) thing.

The wife and family, I can testify, did not know what the husband/father was up to.

How do I know? The wife threw him out on the day the house was raided at 6am by police officers and he was arrested.

What Aimee has done is extremely dodgy - and if we are going to argue that Aimee is too young/too inexperienced to realise this - then Aimee should not have been given much responsibility and power by the Green Party.

Either way, this is mainly on the Green Party - they have allowed a trans candidate to effectively be teflon-coated because they are are trans. It;s a trans-wash.

“It said the suspension had been made following a number of complaints“

Jesus Christ, they really were just going to let it slide. ‘We take safeguarding seriously’...okay yup.