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JellySlice · 31/08/2018 12:18

Looks like I'm going with my 15yo and her friends to Pride tomorrow. They are naive rainbow-swallowing trans-allies, and I am a gender-critical liberal (small-L). I am not going to spoil their fun or embarrass dd, I am simply there as their discreet chaperone.

But...

Should I, still discreet, do something...more?

Suggestions...?

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thatdamnwoman · 31/08/2018 14:52

It's not transphobic to state the biological truth — that women don't have penises.

Why are you so terrified by basic biological facts?

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 14:50

OP you're supposed to be a bit more subtle about the transphobia, your OP is very blatant.

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 14:49

HavingALittleBabyToolshed I don't. And neither does any lesbian I know. And neither do trans activists. The big obsession with penises is here on FWR.

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JellySlice · 31/08/2018 14:46

Havingalittle I don't understand.

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noeffingidea · 31/08/2018 14:45

I stand with my lesbian sisters because of their biology
Well said. And lets not forget, homosexuality ie same sex attraction is a protected status under the equality act.

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 31/08/2018 14:44

Oh I get it, Jasmine are you a retailer of these banners?

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 31/08/2018 14:44

OP I’m not sure this is a good look, I also think there will be eyes on you because FWR gets a lot of attention.

Jasmine why do you think lesbians or feminism should centre male bodies?

oatmealrats · 31/08/2018 14:43

Given that transactivism is drenched in homophobia and actively argues that lesbians are immoral for wanting nothing to do with males, I'd say they should be the ones staying home. Instead they continue to colonize an event meant to celebrate same sex attraction, because they care far more about validation than whether or not they support gay conversion rhetoric. I certainly no longer feel comfortable at any pride when I know the organizers would call me a terf for saying my sexual orientation is only inclusive of other females. I couldn't care less if they feel they are facing hostility.

OP you really don't have to do anything at all. Maybe it might be interested to open up a discussion with your daughter and her friends. I was the same way a few years ago and it took me a while but I finally got out of rainbow politics.

noeffingidea · 31/08/2018 14:41

Take one of these banners or stay away OP
Who are you to be telling people what banners they should take to pride?

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JellySlice · 31/08/2018 14:41

I stand with my lesbian sisters because of their biology.

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jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 14:40

Me too UpstartCrow - regardless of their biology.

UpstartCrow · 31/08/2018 14:38

I stand with my lesbian sisters.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 31/08/2018 14:37

women don't have penises = transphobic. I see. Interesting stance

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 14:36

A lot of these youngsters are well meaning lovely kids but just don't see what older adults do.

Like these older adults that go around putting transphobic stickers up in the portaloos and writing transphobic messages on bank notes and loo rolls.

These well meaning young kids are out having fun with their well meaning friends at a well meaning event. It shouldn't be too much to ask for the adult chaperoning them to have well meaning intentions too. Or simply not to behave like a spiteful idiot.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 31/08/2018 14:36

I'd go. I'd want to see if any male compere was making 'jokes' about dragging lesbians off by their saggy tits (Manchester Pride, anyone?)

LadybirdsAreBirds · 31/08/2018 14:32

Women'S OPINIONS have no place at Pride. You heard it here

NameChangedAgain18 · 31/08/2018 14:30

Zoom in on the smaller banner behind. Assume the OP is a feminist if not a lesbian

But then, again, she would be telling certain lesbians that they aren’t proper feminists. That’s surely not appropriate at such an event?

seafret · 31/08/2018 14:19

I think I would defintely go so you can see exactly what is going on and check the atmosphere etc. A lot of these youngsters are well meaning lovely kids but just don't see what older adults do.

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 14:13

Zoom in on the smaller banner behind. Assume the OP is a feminist if not a lesbian.

NameChangedAgain18 · 31/08/2018 14:12

Take one of these banners or stay away OP.

Why would the OP take one of those banners? She’s not said that she’s a lesbian. So (assuming she isn’t)* she has no right to speak for lesbians and to tell them that they should accept male lesbians. I’m not sure why you’d presume she might?

*If you’re a lesbian, OP, I apologise for my assumption!

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 14:06

Save it for your rad fem WPUK meetings it has no place at Pride.

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JellySlice · 31/08/2018 14:05

Oh, is Lesbians are female homosexuals upsetting you, jasminmaya?

I see that as supportive, as standing squarely behind LGB+

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UpstartCrow · 31/08/2018 14:00

Upset? Now you know how lesbians feel when they are told they have to sleep with people who have a penis.
T is not a sexual orientation, L is.

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 13:57

Gronky yes I do. If I was trans I would find the stickers or any other 'statement' very hostile and upsetting.

Take one of these banners or stay away OP.

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Gronky · 31/08/2018 13:50

Why don't you have a racist protest at black pride while you're at it?

Do you really equate this with racism?

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