Caroline Lucas on Aimee Challoner in the Guardian

I wonder why they've suspended Aimee now? Presumably it's the result of the backlash against yesterday's article by Lucas, with people pointing out precise details of all the things Aimee had done wrong

One could be forgiven for thinking that Lucas could scarcely have tried any harder, in that statement, to provoke the public.

I know I keep saying this but I'm far less interested in Aimee Challenor than I am in whether other Green Party members knew about the charges facing DC and kept quiet. That's the really explosive stuff.

A tweet about silencing memebers & some dodgy project containg kids playing with sex toys posted by AC.Also @FatherBBrennan collated the info various women had compiled www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2018/08/31/green-party-announces-independent-investigation-and-no-fault-suspension-of-aimee-challenor/
Tweeted to CL last evening.

I find it pretty incredible that no other Green Party members would have been FB friends, arranfan

^^ Given the size of the GP presence in Coventry you are right - it would be surprising if a reasonable percentage of them were not following DC, TC etc. In which case, many more questions than answers and we need to know that the independent investigator/s have the scope to make enquiries about that and that people are instructed to cooperate with those enquiries.

I hope TC has also been suspended pending investigation (of standing as a councillor while disqualified due to a recent criminal charge) and access to the membership data has been revoked...

That Pilgrim Tucker thread is quite something. Goodness me.

I wonder why they've suspended Aimee now? Presumably it's the result of the backlash against yesterday's article by Lucas, with people pointing out precise details of all the things Aimee had done wrong. Which Lucas could have found out herself before writing the article if she'd had a mind to.

I've looked up those three young people, they are two women and a man. All present as the sex that they are, no ambiguity whatsoever. I despair. What the fuck is their investment in destroying safeguarding for the vulnerable? Non binary my arse.

RedToothBrush's post from other thread:

Pilgrim Tucker @pilgrimtucker
THREAD:
Why has there been such a shockingly poor response from the Green Party to #AimeeChallenor crisis? Maybe the fact that all their internal communication representatives on GP Executive Committee are transgender (non-binary) trans activists has something to do with it.? 1/6
Molly Arthurs, Lee-Anne Lawrance & Tom Pashby job-share the role of “Internal Communications Co-ordinator” on the Green Party Executive (GPEx). All three identify as “non-binary”, and call themselves “they”. The GPEx is “responsible for the day to day running of the party” 2/6
So the people who control internal comms at the #Greens also control the narrative re the important Qs raised by the #Challenor crisis. This may explain why @CarolineLucas’s article failed to understand the sex-based exemptions in the Equality Act, or engage with concerns 3/6
According to the @TheGreenParty website, Aimee Challenor still retains a seat on their Executive Committee as the “Publications Co-ordinator”. With the three “non-binary” reps, far from being under represented in the Green Party, trans people seem almost over represented. 4/6
Some say there’s a trans activist take-over of political parties, allowed by gullible virtue signallers. Activists like Aimee & Lily Madigan get into positions of power then do little but undermine the rights of women & girls. Certainly Aimee rarely tweeted on climate change 5/6
All political parties must ensure they aren’t being used in a political war to erode the sex-based rights of 52% of their electorate & must ensure their trans reps& members are not above challenge or criticism. Also they must listen & engage with women’s concerns, not dismiss 6/6

You might also notice that Aimee Challenor's twitter handle now appears to be simply @aimeechallenor

I find it pretty incredible that no other Green Party members would have been FB friends, arranfan

Not on FB and never have been (that's possibly more unintentionally outing than I realise :) ) - but if AC was a friend of TC on FB and TC was posting about it, how plausible is it that AC had no idea etc.? Setting aside the issue of AC as a Coventry Pride Trustee?

Wasn't Molly the one in the email saying she couldn't do anything if she was given a false name?

I wonder if she's prepared to take a fall for this?

Did someone tell AC to give DC a false name?

Did AC, seriously - given she's 20 and not a skilled operator - never, ever mention the charges, even conversationally, to close friends?

Given her mother (a would-be councillor and fellow GP member) was posting all over Facebook about it?

Given Coventry Pride Knew?

And did the police not inform the GP? And the GP comms team (internal or external) not heat of it?

RTB has just posted a twitter thread from Pigrim Tucker on the other GP thread.

It's worth a read. Apparently all the GP reps responsible for internal comms identify as trans/non binary.

twitter.com/pilgrimtucker/status/1035502631232458753?s=21

"Molly Arthurs, Lee-Anne Lawrance & Tom Pashby job-share the role of “Internal Communications Co-ordinator” on the Green Party Executive (GPEx). All three identify as “non-binary”, and call themselves “they”. The GPEx is “responsible for the day to day running of the party” 2/6"

AC has just been suspended from the Greens pending investigation from outside of the party.
www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2018/08/31/green-party-announces-independent-investigation-and-no-fault-suspension-of-aimee-challenor/
AC to release statement later today

Why on earth Aimee was not suspended pending the outdone of an independent investigation on DAY ONE is beyond me.

Still awaiting a statement from Girl Guides and Scouts. That will be interesting.

I think the person thrown under the bus in this instance is Aimee.

Politics is a brutal arena.

Still awaiting a statement from Stonewall.

That will be interesting.

Caroline Lucas is a coward held firmly in place by the idea that women must be nice.

Caroline Lucas is throwing women and children under the bus.

Caroline Lucas will find herself in a Kids Company style scandal.

Regarding the latest statement from the Green Party.

Back peddling rarely works. Especially in politics.

This latest statement opens the floodgates especially with regard to other organisations that have a say in political lobbying who engaged the services of Aimee Challenor for safeguarding issues.

I agree Lady

"Any assertion of fault or otherwise could be prejudicial to due process"

Oh dear Caroline. You prejudiced Due Process all over the place in the Guardian yesterday

If CL is acting in good faith that the GP will announce who is conducting the independent investigation.

If CL argues that would endanger the independent investigator then CL needs to reflect on that statement long and hard.

We must be told who the investigator is and their scope and remit for investigation.

Frances

"No fault suspension"? You don't say!

CL made her stance pretty darned clear yesterday. What an absolute shit show. 'Due Process' my arse

www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2018/08/31/green-party-announces-independent-investigation-and-no-fault-suspension-of-aimee-challenor/

But is self declaration exists then access can never be illegitimate
The intensions of the person may not be honourable but it will give anyone a right to be in the space