TERFblocker inciting TAs to 'go after the advertisers'

April 15th 2018 Justine Roberts' interview with Sunday Times:

'Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts: Transgender activists try to curb free speech on site'
(extract)
The founder of Mumsnet says transgender “thought police” are pressurising advertisers to withdraw from Britain’s most popular parenting website because it allows the discussion of trans topics.

Justine Roberts said she had been approached by three significant advertisers who had been threatened by trans groups.

“Transgender activists have contacted Mumsnet advertisers and said they will be organising a boycott of their products if they don’t remove their advertising from Mumsnet,” Roberts said.

The website had told the advertisers that it “works hard to keep the discussions civil” and was determined to let them continue.

“What’s worrying to me is the thought-police action around speech and the shutting down of the right to be able to disagree and immediately labelling it as transphobic,” Roberts said.

The threats are the latest move in a campaign by transgender activists to inhibit discussion of potential legal changes that would allow people born male to self-identify as women.

Feminists say the plans threaten women’s rights and protected spaces. Trans activists say that to oppose them is bigotry. They have pressurised dozens of venues into cancelling meetings on the subject." (continues)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mumsnet-founder-justine-roberts-transgender-activists-try-to-curb-free-speech-on-site-z3sr3nf6q?shareToken=b2eb62822dd26aecc0f88653978ed23a

responses to the announcement:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3222471-AIBU-to-be-extremely-proud-of-Justine-Roberts-Mumsnet-right-now

Interview with Justine Roberts on Talk Radio discussing this (also featured India Willoughby)

And Yes to what RedToothbrush says.

Hmm. Amount of stuff bought by MNers from firms advertising. Millions and millions of £s worth.

Amount bought by TRAs - tiddly squat.

Discounting of course the few hundred pairs of high heels, lippy, padded bras, sanitary towels for "periods" by the more enthusiastic TRAs, the odd tutu and packets of glitter etc.

Money talks - MNers have more of it.

I even bought that Boden dress that was on Mumsnet Swears By a couple of months ago. It's very nice.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I make 90% of the purchase decisions in our household of 5.

I buy all the food and clothes, and the majority of the big purchases like holidays and cars.

Mumsnet is full of mums like me - and the advertisers know that.

Hey, MNetters have been talking about the political issues like the recent David Challenor The Paedophile and Child Torturer Case, about how parties vet their senior members. We can not have that!

One of our lot has been caught up in it, because they thought it appropriate to employ David Challenor The Paedophile and Child Torturer and not tell their party that this might cause a bit of embarrassment. They were only trying to 'bond' with their father. We must stand by them no matter what, 'cos trans' and all trans people need love from their families.

In order to protect them, we need to pressure MN to shut up the evil wench mothers who might be a teeny bit concerned about their kids and force them to stop talking about the safeguarding issues that David Challenor The Paedophile and Child Torturer, being a high profile campaigner (with support from the 4th biggest Political Party) for the removal of safeguarding measures raises.

Cos this will be an enormously attractive and profitable plan for all these companies that we intend to approach.

Yes. This is a good strategy. Get on the case...

I don't understand the 'Cis women are women' on terfblocker.

It's one of their trademark reversals to troll women. Pomo kids find it highlarious.

I thought that the whole cis women thing was saying that cis women aren't really proper women anyway, and it's only really they type of women with penises that really matter/have a voice because they've had it so hard (no sniggering at the back).

I don't understand the 'Cis women are women' on terfblocker.

As the person who does most of the shopping for the family, I have never bought S&M gear or hired the services of an individual to come and whip us soundly.

I do frequently buy fish fingers and peas tho.

So I get a lot of ads for clothes, trainers, furniture (building work being done) homeware and I've bought skechers x 3, loads of uniqlo stuff and currently hunting for sofa.

Who can say Ereshkigal? For being mean women who drink gin?

On the other hand, we have said lots of things about the lovely Jess, who continues to bask in obscurity

And behold! Look who is being advised to sue.

For what exactly?

They also dislike mumsnet intensely because women can discuss this subject.

And behold! Look who is being advised to sue.

Dear Idiots:

67% of all UK household consumption is controlled or influenced by women. Women make the decision or influence the purchase of 92% of holidays, 65% of cars, 93% of food, 91% of home goods.

You have sieves for brains.

All the best and Under Birds Eye. Blessed be the Zoflora.

Lang

This TERFBLOCKER?

For lurkers, 'Truscum' is what transactivists call transsexuals who have gone through SRS surgery and who believe that 1) gender dysphoria is a fundamental condition present in transgender people 2) medical transisition of some kind is required (and not simply breast augmentation)

India Willoughby then is called 'truscum' by them.

Certainly not the 'kind' behaviour they demand of women.

Advertisers on MN sell to women. Women who are often Mums. Despite all their postulating and pontificating, the TRA crowd will never buy what the advertisers sell on here. They don't want nappies and breast pumps, or fish fingers. If those companies want to sell, they will advertise to women who will buy their products. Household purchases are largely decided on by women. We do the food shopping, buy the cleaning products and the baby stuff. I'm happy to withdraw my custom from any company who complies with demands from them.

Well I think we're unlikely to see a sudden rise in trans women wearing Boden so I'm not too worried....

Not advisable...

Tufty club in very high heels.

IS THAT EVEN SAFE?!!!!!

As sinister as the tufty club. Feh.

And surely advertisers can see which way the wind is blowing this. People who work in these jobs have to keep their noses to the ground to be able to sell to us. This is a huge freedom of speech issue and could backfire horribly on a brand that decided to act on these TRA claims.