Page 7 | Shon Faye thinks the words "girl", "woman" and "she" were "invented" in the 13th century

VickyEadie · 2018-08-29T18:09:43+00:00

[[https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/9ba1l5/this_tumblr_post_that_claims_words_like_girl_and/]] And there were no languages other than English, presumably.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 29/08/2018 19:34

Male/ female is something humans knew before language. All mammals know male/ female. Reproduction is the main imperative in all animals, plants, isn't it?

The idea that the human race only bothered having words or ways of referring to women / girls recently is mind bogglingly misogynistic.

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 29/08/2018 19:31

Surely the fact that at times in the past high heels and dresses have been considered "male" clothing, just goes to strengthen the argument that we need to broaden the definiton of what it means to be a man rather than presuming that behind a wish to wear such items is a deep-seated desire to change gender?

Well quite, just look at the number of young girls (22%) who are self harming with one of the leading causes being the constant push of gender stereotypes. Their agenda Faye promotes pushes gendered stereotypes more than anything else I have ever encountered.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 29/08/2018 19:31

That person seriously thinks there were no words for "the sort that has the babies" and "young one of the sort that has the babies" in ?UK before 13th century?

Well
A. That's clearly nonsense and
B. Shows up a lot of the thinking, casually presenting the idea that women & girls used to have no words for them. This isn't the "enjoy your erasure" person is it?

Potplant2 · 29/08/2018 19:31

Is there a language anywhere that doesn’t distinguish between female and male humans and animals?

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 29/08/2018 19:29

I don’t know anything about Anglo-Saxon, but I do know that there were words for ‘woman’ and ‘she’ in Ancient Greek and in Latin, as well as Brythonic and Old Welsh, all of which predate the 12th century.

The same is true for Old Irish.

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VickyEadie · 29/08/2018 19:28

I don’t know anything about Anglo-Saxon, but I do know that there were words for ‘woman’ and ‘she’ in Ancient Greek and in Latin, as well as Brythonic and Old Welsh, all of which predate the 12th century.

Wanker

Yep. Of course, a load of SF's fans have lauded this bollocks under the thread.

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VickyEadie · 29/08/2018 19:27

Surely the fact that at times in the past high heels and dresses have been considered "male" clothing, just goes to strengthen the argument that we need to broaden the definiton of what it means to be a man rather than presuming that behind a wish to wear such items is a deep-seated desire to change gender?

Yes! Leaving SF's appalling ignorance of languages aside, SF appears to think these points make some sort of 'gotcha!' case for transactivism.

In fact, they largely do quite the opposite.

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Potplant2 · 29/08/2018 19:26

I don’t know anything about Anglo-Saxon, but I do know that there were words for ‘woman’ and ‘she’ in Ancient Greek and in Latin, as well as Brythonic and Old Welsh, all of which predate the 12th century.

Wanker

FermatsTheorem · 29/08/2018 19:26

The guy's intellect knows no beginning.

Snort!

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 29/08/2018 19:25

www.factmonster.com/science/animals/animal-names-male-female-and-young

Kewqueue · 29/08/2018 19:24

Surely the fact that at times in the past high heels and dresses have been considered "male" clothing, just goes to strengthen the argument that we need to broaden the definiton of what it means to be a man rather than presuming that behind a wish to wear such items is a deep-seated desire to change gender?

Imnobody4 · 29/08/2018 19:20

I love the comments on the site, particularly 'my version of progress looks like the dark ages. .

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VickyEadie · 29/08/2018 19:16

I was also amused by Shon's comments about pink and blue - as if it means or proves anything at all.

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Biologifemini · 29/08/2018 19:14

What about female?

When will people realise female is just a set of physical and genetic characteristics and our biochemistry is also different to males.

Women are not a bit of oestrogen. One thing that really irritates is that women have hormonal fluctuations each month and over the course of a lifetime (see teenage years, menopause and pregnancy). We don’t just take a whack of oestrogen and then become female.
Women also have testosterone floating about.
We are not a bit of lipstick and eye make up. Perhaps that is too complicated for some.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 29/08/2018 19:14

The guy's intellect knows no beginning.